2024 Presidential Race

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volinbham said:
it apparently cannot be identified once in the system. definitely presents a problem.

an analogy I've heard is that we all know there's an egg in a cake but once it's incorporated you cannot find the egg.

it's also the problem with fraudulent registrations - if a vote is cast on a fraudulent registration or even if one is cast using a valid registration but cast by someone other than the registrant it is in the system
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That's not true because they have voter ID #'s that identify the voter (as seen in that previous post with the person thst voted 29 times).
 
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hog88 said:
I always thought it was illegal to bet on presidential elections in the US. At least illegal for casinos and sports books to take bets on them.
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I think it is. It’s also illegal for you to have your friendly game of poker in your garage where you bet fake chips but the buyin for that stack of chips is $50 bucks a head.
 
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McDad said:
If you were smart like him or good at analogy like him or somewhat capable of teaching others like him, you could have enjoyed the sense of satisfaction he enjoyed by helping me understand.
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But I'm not as smart as him and I'm incapable of teaching others like him, he's just a much better and more wise of a person than me.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
They’re based to balance out the payout plain and simple. Over a large population and number of samples, and yes that many odds makers is a large sample, it’s statistically relevant. But hey if you want to tell yourself they aren’t real or relevant to help you cope go ahead. Just ignore that 8 of of 10 accuracy factoid included and you’re good
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Betting odds are not predictions. You aren't thing of the role that oddsmakers play correctly. It is their job to get equal betting on both sides. Oddsmakers are not forecasting winners and losers.
 
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Vol423 said:
That's not true because they have voter ID #'s that identify the voter (as seen in that previous post with the person thst voted 29 times).
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different things - the 29 is how many times a vote was entered associated with a particular voter. (act of voting)

once entered it's impossible to "find" that particular vote to invalidate it (content of the vote)
 
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Cod said:
When I think Puerto Rico I think tropical..... not garbage. But again I've not traveled to Puerto Rico.

The remark was a roast, not racist i do believe that... i think we are all way too sensitive these days and by all I mean Liberals and Republicans and anybody in between.
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Wait till Nash gets mad because someone says Chicago is full of rats. 🤣

Chicago Tops 'Rattiest Cities' List For Decade As Other Democrat-Run Metros Plagued With Disgusting Rats | ZeroHedge

2024’s Most Rat-Infested Cities in America | Orkin

Nash will probably say... "rats aren't so bad once you get to know them". I remember that time he was trying to convince me Haitians don't eat cats. I'm like I have been there, if cats are the worst thing they are eating you're probably doing pretty good. 🤣
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Betting odds are not predictions. You aren't thing of the role that oddsmakers play correctly. It is their job to get equal betting on both sides. Oddsmakers are not forecasting winners and losers.
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the aren't predictions of the vote count.

they can have predictive value if the sentiment is overwhelmingly in one direction

that said, they are connected to likely individual voter behavior.

If you were going to bet on 2 games where one had Team A favored by 2 points over Team B and the other had Team D favored by 24 over Team C then it does suggest Team D is the more likely team to win out of the 4 teams. It doesn't tell you if they'll beat the spread
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I think it is. It’s also illegal for you to have your friendly game of poker in your garage where you bet fake chips but the buyin for that stack of chips is $50 bucks a head.
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If it's illegal for casinos (online betting services) to take bets on the election why would they be moving the line to even out the money like BB says? I know they do that on actual events they can take bets on but why would they on something that doesn't pay?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Betting odds are not predictions. You aren't thing of the role that oddsmakers play correctly. It is their job to get equal betting on both sides. Oddsmakers are not forecasting winners and losers.
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Ok sure. They mean absolutely nothing and have been accurate 8 out of 10 times in the last few decades. Works for me!
 
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volinbham said:
it apparently cannot be identified once in the system. definitely presents a problem.

an analogy I've heard is that we all know there's an egg in a cake but once it's incorporated you cannot find the egg.

it's also the problem with fraudulent registrations - if a vote is cast on a fraudulent registration or even if one is cast using a valid registration but cast by someone other than the registrant it is in the system
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should of used pie for the analogy for him to better understand
 
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hog88 said:
No it's not, it was a dumb garbage question from a garbage poster...
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I spent the better part of summer in 1999 in Puerto Rico. It may have significantly changed since then, but I did notice large amounts at certain times. Most of the time it seemed fairly clean. I stayed in San Juan, but spent a lot of time on the small island, Vieques, plus both Arecibo and Vega Alta on the main island. The relatively small size of PR makes it easy to see and experience the entire territory in an efficient time manner
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Wait till Nash gets mad because someone says Chicago is full of rats. 🤣

Chicago Tops 'Rattiest Cities' List For Decade As Other Democrat-Run Metros Plagued With Disgusting Rats | ZeroHedge

2024’s Most Rat-Infested Cities in America | Orkin

Nash will probably say... "rats aren't so bad once you get to know them". I remember that time he was trying to convince me Haitians don't eat cats. I'm like I have been there, if cats are the worst thing they are eating you're probably doing pretty good. 🤣
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Phoenix, AZ all the way down at #32.
 
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volinbham said:
the aren't predictions of the vote count.

they can have predictive value if the sentiment is overwhelmingly in one direction

that said, they are connected to likely individual voter behavior.
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It's hard to know that without knowing who is placing the bets. Bookmakers simply open with a line, and then adjust it in accordance with betting behavior. Bookmakers are looking to find the odds that either divide the bettors or stops them from playing altogether. In the end, the bettors determine what the odds are; not the bookmakers. That is what any bookmaker will tell you. Vegas is neither right or wrong. That is the wrong way to think of it.
 
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volinbham said:
different things - the 29 is how many times a vote was entered associated with a particular voter. (act of voting)

once entered it's impossible to "find" that particular vote to invalidate it (content of the vote)
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You're so good at this.

Hog looks incompetent by comparison.
 
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hog88 said:
If it's illegal for casinos (online betting services) to take bets on the election why would they be moving the line to even out the money like BB says? I know they do that on actual events they can take bets on but why would they on something that doesn't pay?
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Wouldn't be illegal for casinos outside of us jurisdiction would it?
 
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