2024 Presidential Race

[BreatheUT]

Woodrow Wilson gave us the soviets, nazis, the Fed, great depression, ww1/ww2 and the perfect example of what damage an incapacitated potus can do

Wilson is widely considered one of the worst POTUSs. He suppressed speech, and claimed he would keep us out of WWI but joined the war effort almost immediately from what I gather.

Interesting enough he almost lost the election in 1916, if not for some Republican voter holdouts in California because they thought Charles Evans Hughes and the more moderate Republican governor didn't get along. Sounds familiar. Woodrow Wilson was a devout racist.

The racist, bigot and pathetic Wilson would go on to win California by less than 3,700 and take the 13 electoral votes.

Who says votes don't count?

Put on more steam.
-The General

1916 United States presidential election in California - Wikipedia

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[TN-POSSUM]

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Woodrow Wilson is definitely one of the worst presidents of all time.

Yeah but like Biden, his successor said 'hold my beer'. But in a good historical turn, Biden usurped Warren Harding as the worst of all time, and Commie-la will leave Puddinhead in the dust as the worst of all time. I can't wait to see the imbecile they come up with to run as Walz's VP.

 

[BreatheUT]

Imagine Woodrow Wilson today. The democrat party is well aware of Wilson's record and think they can use that same model. Some of you holdouts need to get with it.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

If we go to bed Tuesday night with no projected winner in PA, GA, or NC; we will know something is up

I think they leave GA alone this year. I think they're play this year is to take PA, WI, and MI. I am hoping the floods in WNC doesn't have a drastic impact of the overall totals there, but seems like democrats are less confident there, as they have pulled a lot of advertising money.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Imagine Woodrow Wilson today. The democrat party is well aware of Wilson's record and think they can use that same model. Some of you holdouts need to get with it.

I thought you were a Dem?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Neither one of the candidates could win a Spelling Bee.

Facts.

 

[BreatheUT]

I thought you were a Dem?

I am an American.

Not being a smart azz. Only a dem by registration now. Identify as an independent and align with conservatism.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I am an American.

Not being a smart azz. Only a dem by registration now. Identify as an independent and align with conservatism.

Well...Hell yeah brotha!

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I am an American.

Not being a smart azz. Only a dem by registration now. Identify as an independent and align with conservatism.

The reason I asked is bc I thought you voted for Kamaallallalla.

 

[hog88]

That is an absolute travesty.

Personally I'd rather it take a few days past election day to count the votes and make sure that count is accurate. However that is not what I think will be the cause of the delays.

 

[Vol423]

I am an American.

Not being a smart azz. Only a dem by registration now. Identify as an independent and align with conservatism.

That's why I was stunned to hear you were a registered Democrat. You come across as relatively conservative.

 

[hog88]

FDR for me and it’s not even close. If half of the people who love him just knew the story behind food stamps alone, they’d despise the man. Or that he banned people from getting raises.

Add in concentration camps, social security, farm subsidies.

Most major issues we are facing now (welfare, social security, and employer based health insurance) are a result of his horrific policies.

Lincoln, FDR and Wilson (FDR and Wilson could be 2 or 3) are the top 3 worst in the history of the US.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

There's gonna be shenanigans in PA. You can mark it down. They'll take the vote from election day, which is heavy red and see what they need to add to those mail in ballots.

Already started too.

That press conference about registering thousands of fake voters/addresses said that they knew of 3 counties already affected. PA is gonna be a cluster. Hopefully Trump is so far ahead from the other swing states that it doesnt matter.

 

[hog88]

Absolutely. It's going to be at least two weeks before we find out who wins those states.

Possibly because you know that there will be suits filed.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

He [Silver] claims that many surveys, including Emerson College, are doing something called 'herding' - or using existence poll results to impact new polls - to keep producing close polls with one candidate or the other up by one point.

Been saying this.

They go poll 1000 females on the Harvard campus wearing vagina hats....then say "Harris by 2% "

Trump is winning in a landslide in the real world. They just want people to believe its close so we do not riot when they try to steal the election again. Not gonna work. Not standing for it. Period.

 

[Sudden Impact]

real wages rose under his watch - particularly for those at the middle and lower end of the wage scale
the income gap was reduced
ISIS was largely defeated
the regulatory framework was reduced significantly
unemployment was at historic low levels
flow of illegal immigrants was greatly reduced

just a few that pop in my head.

I'm not voting for him but to say nothing was accomplished isn't a realistic view. Even a comment like "worthless wall" shows you aren't making a semi-objective assessment. If you don't like him I get it but that doesn't create a new fact set.

I see you have a low standard for the word "Great"
Anything that just pops into your head that is not really great is not great.
As stated earlier, most of these were going to happen anyway.
Trump had control of both the House and the Senate and could not get any meaning Legislation passed. Healthcare, Immigration Reform.
Making America Great requires Bi Partisanship as well.
Without any experience, the My Way or the Highway Approach is not working and expect more of the same.
Again, what Greatness did he bring to America. I guess he has a concept but no plan.
Anybody can address this but how did he make America Great Again and what will change the second time around to ensure he will succeed on the 2nd attempt.
There are plenty of failed attempts but his party has even stated enough is enough.

 

[Majors]

Oh Mark

 

[Vol423]

Oh Mark

They need to tell Biden to crawl back in his basement too. It's really pathetic when your surrogates are making more stupid statements than Kamala herself.

 

[Majors]

They need to tell Biden to crawl back in his basement too. It's really pathetic when your surrogates are making more stupid statements than Kamala herself.

Bill, Obama and Biden all endorsing Trump with their statements

 

[PEPPERJAX]

That's why I was stunned to hear you were a registered Democrat. You come across as relatively conservative.

BreatheUT is Lester Holt.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Trump would have been wise to leverage Nikki Haley in PA/MI/WI suburbs down the stretch.

But Trump is an absolute idiot. So…. So much for that.

Trump tried but Nikki said ''No" and he could not force her. Her endorsement was a strongarm by the Republican party and that was all she was going to do.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I mean the Rs haven't jailed political opponents, impeached their political opponents twice, haven't shot up their opponents softball games, haven't passed a law allowing the military to kill civilians.

Don't forget about creating a fake dossier, obtained illegal warrants to spy on political opponents, use the doj to spread disinformation and urge media both social and MS to suppress damaging information against the ones in power.

 

[evillawyer]

MAGA be like: "Get in losers, we got another insurrection to attend!'

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I see you have a low standard for the word "Great"
Anything that just pops into your head that is not really great is not great.
As stated earlier, most of these were going to happen anyway.
Trump had control of both the House and the Senate and could not get any meaning Legislation passed. Healthcare, Immigration Reform.
Making America Great requires Bi Partisanship as well.
Without any experience, the My Way or the Highway Approach is not working and expect more of the same.
Again, what Greatness did he bring to America. I guess he has a concept but no plan.
Anybody can address this but how did he make America Great Again and what will change the second time around to ensure he will succeed on the 2nd attempt.
There are plenty of failed attempts but his party has even stated enough is enough.

Pure conjecture Mrs. Pumpkin Tits.