2024 Presidential Race

[C-south]

If the Democrats proposed a border bill that perfectly fit your wants but had sweeping gun control laws at the federal level would you support it? That’s basically the same as your question.

No it’s not. Saying those that don’t support a bill that sends a couple dollars to the border and millions to Ukraine squashed a “bipartisan” bill is disingenuous to say the least.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

You keep saying “other countries”. Universal healthcare is s*** in those other countries. Tuition has always been crazy and do you know when it got worse?….when the government got involved. Free community college exists in a lot of places besides Tennessee. Do two years there and then transfer to a larger university otherwise if you sign for the loan pay the s*** back. On top of that it may be a good idea to get a degree in a field that will bring a salary to where you can pay it back.

That’s why we need to reform tuition cost.

And healthcare as well.

Sure it isn’t great in other countries but those countries still have private healthcare for those that want it.

Also universal healthcare would still be cheaper than what the average person pays in healthcare insurance already.

 

[volfanhill]

If the Democrats proposed a border bill that perfectly fit your wants but had sweeping gun control laws at the federal level would you support it? That’s basically the same as your question.

And it's the same as you biactching about a border bill that included funding for Ukraine. It's not hard. The bill was specifically designed to try to paint GOP in the corner. And either you want be a shill, which is fine we have numerous on both sides, or you are ignorant AF. So shill or ignorant? Please let us know.

 

[utvolpj]

That’s why we need to reform tuition cost.

You know what the issue is with tuition costs right?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

California just passed a law stating that it is illegal to ask voters for ID at polling places. How are you going to prove someone is a citizen if they don't have a Driver's License or some form of ID? Non citizens can easily vote in California.

SB 1174 notes that California requires people to provide a driver’s license number, California identification number or the last four digits of their social security number to register to vote. The state also uses signature verification checks and mandatory partial recounts to ensure election integrity.

California Gov. Newsom signs law to stop cities from having voter ID requirement

Senate Bill 1174 targets a voter ID requirement that was adopted by Huntington Beach in Orange County.

www.kcra.com

 

[Vol8188]

SB 1174 notes that California requires people to provide a driver’s license number, California identification number or the last four digits of their social security number to register to vote. The state also uses signature verification checks and mandatory partial recounts to ensure election integrity.

California Gov. Newsom signs law to stop cities from having voter ID requirement

Senate Bill 1174 targets a voter ID requirement that was adopted by Huntington Beach in Orange County.

www.kcra.com

I think you may have read this wrong. California does not allow any kind of voter identification

Those were the same requirements in Georgia and we were all told by the media that it was racist because black Americans cannot obtain a drivers license nor can they learn the last four of their social security number

 

[utvolpj]

Moving goalposts? It was a question, which is yet to be answered.

The border bill was a bipartisan bill and Republicans still shot it down so they could continue to complain about the border. If it had passed it would’ve been the most sweeping immigration bill to date.

The opposition to the border /war funding bill was more bipartisan than the support. It was nonsensical political theater for low info voters

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Probably true. But at the same time, how many women will be scared to seek medical attention out of fear of repercussions? How many women have to die before it an issue? America already has the highest maternal mortality rate in developed nations. This is only going to make that worse.

Ranked 122….https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/maternal-mortality-ratio/country-comparison/

 

[JL24]

Liberals = sovereign citizens.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

And it's the same as you biactching about a border bill that included funding for Ukraine. It's not hard. The bill was specifically designed to try to paint GOP in the corner. And either you want be a shill, which is fine we have numerous on both sides, or you are ignorant AF. So shill or ignorant? Please let us know.

As I’ve said, I don’t have a problem sending aid to our allies. Specially when dealing with Russians, who have been openly against America since basically the end of WW2. Surprised any American would have issues when helping fight Russia.

 

[hUTch2002]

Probably true. But at the same time, how many women will be scared to seek medical attention out of fear of repercussions? How many women have to die before it an issue? America already has the highest maternal mortality rate in developed nations. This is only going to make that worse.

What is going to make it worse, the Texas ban? This should be a Texas issue, not an American issue.

I would hope no women would fear seeking help. Government should be out of abortion as much as possible. I don’t believe women should get abortions but I also don’t believe my view should be pushed on others.

 

[Orangeburst]

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Yep.

Nope. Tired of having bureaucrats buying $1000 toilets from their friends.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

You know what the issue is with tuition costs right?

And potentially new home prices…..

 

[volfanhill]

As I’ve said, I don’t have a problem sending aid to our allies. Specially when dealing with Russians, who have been openly against America since basically the end of WW2. Surprised any American would have issues when helping fight Russia.

So then your border security criticism on the GOP is horseshat. You just don't like that they are for security and against Ukraine funding. Make that argument. You wouldn't come off as a shill, liar, misinformed, or clown. But alas, you chose poorly.

 

[StarRaider]

that is nuts considering the hurricane disaster in WNC.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Ranked 122….https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/maternal-mortality-ratio/country-comparison/

Insights into the U.S. Maternal Mortality Crisis: An International Comparison

U.S. policymakers and delivery system leaders could learn from international models of maternity care, including for postpartum support and workforce composition.

www.commonwealthfund.org

U.S. maternal deaths more than doubled over 20 years. Here's who fared the worst

A new study published Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that Black mothers died at the nation’s highest rates, while the largest increases in deaths were found in American Indian and Native Alaskan mothers.

www.pbs.org

America has the highest maternal mortality rate among developed nations–and it’s on the rise. Here’s why we are facing a pregnancy health crisis

The U.S. birth rate is falling–yet maternal mortality is rising at an alarming rate.

fortune.com

 

[C-south]

That’s why we need to reform tuition cost.

And healthcare as well.

Sure it isn’t great in other countries but those countries still have private healthcare for those that want it.

Also universal healthcare would still be cheaper than what the average person pays in healthcare insurance already.

Here’s a great idea. If you can’t afford it don’t do it. If you can’t afford tuition do something else. Anything you want the government to solve is only going to make it way worse. Pretty much anyone can find a job that offers at least decent health coverage. Hell parents can carry kids until they’re 26! That’s pretty ridiculous in itself.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

What is going to make it worse, the Texas ban? This should be a Texas issue, not an American issue.

I would hope no women would fear seeking help. Government should be out of abortion as much as possible. I don’t believe women should get abortions but I also don’t believe my view should be pushed on others.

That’s fair. And more fair than the abortion bans that Trump enable and Republicans continue to enable.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

So then your border security criticism on the GOP is horseshat. You just don't like that they are for security and against Ukraine funding. Make that argument. You wouldn't come off as a shill, liar, misinformed, or clown. But alas, you chose poorly.

If that’s your take away….

 

[just bob]

Only American citizens are allowed to vote in the presidential election.

lol, you're not good at this.

 

[utvolpj]

That’s fair. And more fair than the abortion bans that Trump enable and Republicans continue to enable.

Trump is federal and abortion is a state issue

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

I think you may have read this wrong. California does not allow any kind of voter identification

Those were the same requirements in Georgia and we were all told by the media that it was racist because black Americans cannot obtain a drivers license nor can they learn the last four of their social security number

You still have to be registered to vote, which requires either DL # or SSN.

Photo ID to vote is a form a voter suppression because 1. It is not free. 2. It takes time, sometimes a lengthy amount of time, to get a photo ID. Give everyone a mandatory, free, photo ID when they turn 16 or 18 and then it will be fine.

 

[C-south]

Moving goalposts? It was a question, which is yet to be answered.

The border bill was a bipartisan bill and Republicans still shot it down so they could continue to complain about the border. If it had passed it would’ve been the most sweeping immigration bill to date.

If they wanted a border bill they would offer just a border bill without all the other nonsense.

 

[C-south]

You still have to be registered to vote, which requires either DL # or SSN.

Photo ID to vote is a form a voter suppression because 1. It is not free. 2. It takes time, sometimes a lengthy amount of time, to get a photo ID. Give everyone a mandatory, free, photo ID when they turn 16 or 18 and then it will be fine.

Lol voter suppression. So does a gun background check.