2024 Presidential Race

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C-south said:
We’ve adopted through foster care and even though we didn’t have to pay that kind of money there is still way more bs involved than there should be. We did come out of pocket for close to $10k for a lawyer with our last little girl.
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Good on you. That’s awesome.

Edit: We discussed fostering after we already had our own two. My wife didn’t think she could take it if we loved a kid so much, wanted to adopt and then it fell through for some reason. She’s worked with children, especially special needs for a long time. Just falls in love with all of them.
 
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hog88 said:
Musk didn't have to fight generational bureaucracy at Twitter, a bureaucracy that knows the game 1000x better than he does.
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I think it'd still be fun to have some high profile "See all this? It's wasted tax dollars." and watch the wailing and squirming.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I guess I didn't realize you were a leftist. Reading through your post it appears obvious now.

My apologies I thought you were both a conservative and a never Trumper. If you don't believe in his policies in the first place this conversation is null and void.

I suspect you aren't as deep as you think you are trying to draw me into a debate about Clinton. A younger me actually voted for Clinton because of the policies at the time I agreed with.

Most never Trumpers issue with Trump is his personality. The pastor delivering the message was speaking to his congregation about deeds over personality. There are many parables in the bible about the righteous and unrighteous that fulfilled right and wrong deeds based that was asked. I suspect you won't find a lot of folks who think Trump goes about it as a professional. However the so called professionals are snakes they just use trickery.

I would've never responded if I didn't know you weren't conservative otherwise your post sounds like Liz Cheney just without going batsheet crazy and voting for Harris.
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I don't even know what you mean by this. I'm sure I could be called a conservative neocon or a liberal leftist depending on your particular tribe and what we are talking about. I've even said, in the post you are referring to, I'm not voting for Harris, specifically because of her policies.

Admittedly though, your right I'm not a fan of Trumps personality. However, I think he is unhinged, will say whatever is needed to appeal to the base, and I have zero confidence he actually knows what he is talking about or even believes it. I feel mostly the same about Harris, except instead of unhinged, she is just clueless.
 
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utvolpj said:
Downs is not a life threatening genetic issue. There are some that will lead to a very short and extremely painful life after birth. It's very clear you have no idea what that means and the decisions that must be made
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It is even worse when the life is longer while the quality of life is very poor. I agree that there need to be exceptions.
 
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Grey_pilgrim said:
Are you okay with the Bible being allowed in schools?
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The same founders who fought for separation of church and State were the same people who were ok with the Bible being read in schools. It wasn't uncommon for kids to learn to read by reading the Bible in school.
 
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evillawyer said:
Can't wait for Joe to call them c*cksuckers and see them dressed up as blow-up dolls. That'd be such a dunk on Joe!
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That whole thing is really living rent free in your mind. It’s exactly what they want to happen by wearing the vests and it also shows how fragile and emotional you are.
 
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hog88 said:
If people brushed their teeth it wouldn't need to be in the water.
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The science shows the additional layer helps and is not harmful.

Personally, I lived my first 16 years with fluoridated water...not one cavity. Then I had 4 in HS in a place without fluoride.
 
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appvol said:
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This made my eyes leak. At work, on the jobsite thankfully in my car. Our daughter was given up for dead by doctors twice a couple months apart because my wifes body was trying to abort the pregnancy, her uterus completely filled with blood such that we could not even see her on the emergency ultrasounds...only hear her heartbeat at ~200bpm in there fighting for life. Both times, the ER doctors told us that "it" would pass within 48 hours (aborted) and there was nothing they could do about it. Even after we made it thru the second go round of this nightmare...being told the same things in that video ...when we went for the last ultrasound at about 7months or so, the tech called the doctor in to talk with us. She pointed out white spots in the brain and heart, and other spots around her spine she said were "developmental abnormalities". They said that IF my daughter made it full term to live birth, that we needed to be prepared because she would be "special' and have "challenges". Downs Syndrome was 1 of the possibilities she mentioned, among others. She said there would be no shame in choosing to have an abortion based on the difficulties ahead etc. Our whole church fervently prayed for my wife and child. We had a special service and anointed her with oil and then the preacher, deacons, her parents and myself all laid hands on my wife and begged God to save our child. Again.

My daugher was born june 26th, 2008 by C-section and I held my wifes hand and prayed aloud without ceasing thru the entire 10 or 15min procedure. I got to cut the cord and was the first person to hold her. She was spotless and beautiful, not a single mark or discoloration of her skin...beautiful and healthy. Thank God, she has been perfectly healthy and normal since day 1. She is a straight A student, has played soccer and basketball. She is the love of my life. The doctors gave her up for dead though. Twice. We were prepared to cherish her even if she had challenges that meant she could never be "normal" or self sufficient, never live on her own. She is the greatest blessing that God has ever given me. This is my HannahIMG_1869.jpg
 
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utvolpj said:
Downs is not a life threatening genetic issue. There are some that will lead to a very short and extremely painful life after birth. It's very clear you have no idea what that means and the decisions that must be made
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So you think Jacob Barr a comedian doesn’t deserve to live. He was on the Kill Tony show. Dude was pretty funny. You can listen to his show and he explains what he has. It was pretty crazy. Language is pretty ruff.

 
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marcusluvsvols said:
This made my eyes leak. At work, on the jobsite thankfully in my car. Our daughter was given up for dead by doctors twice a couple months apart because my wifes body was trying to abort the pregnancy, her uterus completely filled with blood such that we could not even see her on the emergency ultrasounds...only hear her heartbeat at ~200bpm in there fighting for life. Both times, the ER doctors told us that "it" would pass within 48 hours (aborted) and there was nothing they could do about it. Even after we made it thru the second go round of this nightmare...being told the same things in that video ...when we went for the last ultrasound at about 7months or so, the tech called the doctor in to talk with us. She pointed out white spots in the brain and heart, and other spots around her spine she said were "developmental abnormalities". They said that IF my daughter made it full term to live birth, that we needed to be prepared because she would be "special' and have "challenges". Downs Syndrome was 1 of the possibilities she mentioned, among others. She said there would be no shame in choosing to have an abortion based on the difficulties ahead etc. Our whole church fervently prayed for my wife and child. We had a special service and anointed her with oil and then the preacher, deacons, her parents and myself all laid hands on my wife and begged God to save our child. Again.

My daugher was born june 26th, 2008 by C-section and I held my wifes hand and prayed aloud without ceasing thru the entire 10 or 15min procedure. I got to cut the cord and was the first person to hold her. She was spotless and beautiful, not a single mark or discoloration of her skin...beautiful and healthy. Thank God, she has been perfectly healthy and normal since day 1. She is a straight A student, has played soccer and basketball. She is the love of my life. The doctors gave her up for dead though. Twice. We were prepared to cherish her even if she had challenges that meant she could never be "normal" or self sufficient, never live on her own. She is the greatest blessing that God has ever given me. This is my HannahView attachment 694070
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Beautiful !!
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
This made my eyes leak. At work, on the jobsite thankfully in my car. Our daughter was given up for dead by doctors twice a couple months apart because my wifes body was trying to abort the pregnancy, her uterus completely filled with blood such that we could not even see her on the emergency ultrasounds...only hear her heartbeat at ~200bpm in there fighting for life. Both times, the ER doctors told us that "it" would pass within 48 hours (aborted) and there was nothing they could do about it. Even after we made it thru the second go round of this nightmare...being told the same things in that video ...when we went for the last ultrasound at about 7months or so, the tech called the doctor in to talk with us. She pointed out white spots in the brain and heart, and other spots around her spine she said were "developmental abnormalities". They said that IF my daughter made it full term to live birth, that we needed to be prepared because she would be "special' and have "challenges". Downs Syndrome was 1 of the possibilities she mentioned, among others. She said there would be no shame in choosing to have an abortion based on the difficulties ahead etc. Our whole church fervently prayed for my wife and child. We had a special service and anointed her with oil and then the preacher, deacons, her parents and myself all laid hands on my wife and begged God to save our child. Again.

My daugher was born june 26th, 2008 by C-section and I held my wifes hand and prayed aloud without ceasing thru the entire 10 or 15min procedure. I got to cut the cord and was the first person to hold her. She was spotless and beautiful, not a single mark or discoloration of her skin...beautiful and healthy. Thank God, she has been perfectly healthy and normal since day 1. She is a straight A student, has played soccer and basketball. She is the love of my life. The doctors gave her up for dead though. Twice. We were prepared to cherish her even if she had challenges that meant she could never be "normal" or self sufficient, never live on her own. She is the greatest blessing that God has ever given me. This is my HannahView attachment 694070
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I understand when my wife was born the doctor told her dad he would to choose his wife or his little girl. He told no you are going to save them both.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The science shows the additional layer helps and is not harmful.

Personally, I lived my first 16 years with fluoridated water...not one cavity. Then I had 4 in HS in a place without fluoride.
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I was just the opposite, first 18 years had 1 cavity with well water. Had 3 from 19 to about 30 on city water with fluoride.
 
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volinbham said:
I actually voted for Gary Johnson in that I thought he was the best candidate. I voted Jorgeson and now Oliver to keep the L ticket getting votes but I don't have the enthusiasm for either that I did for Johnson.
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In all likelihood I'm probably just going to fill in the box next to Oliver, but he is listed as an independent in Alabama. I was a big fan of Johnson as well.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Kamala is preaching energy independenc, affordable housing and groceries, too. ****ing run the other way when you hear affordable housing, whether it's Trump or Kamala.

Energy independence isn't the greatest objective. Let's use the rest of the world's energy first.
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Wait. So we should adopt a national policy of energy dependence?
 
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McDad said:
Well water for my house. Grew up on it and chose to buy a house with it.

It's important for us to only imbibe contaminants in our water which occur naturally.
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Pretty much did the same with a few interludes until I moved to Tennessee.
 
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