2024 Presidential Race

[evillawyer]

And your party can run a mean pick 6. How can anyone compete with that?

Nah, we specialize in having too many men on the field (Pablo, Juan, Jorge, etc), but we get away with it

 

[Kristy*]

The amount of people who are ok with the government controlling every step of their daily life is scary to me.

The media censorship they support absolutely terrifies me!

 

[LouderVol]

Believing BS?

How many people believe trump won in 2020?
How many people believe that if trump loses today it will be due to election fraud?

if its announced today before midnight counting, relatively few.

the longer it drags on, the more questions are going to be raised.

if you want to get rid of the questions about who won you just need a transparent election process.

 

[volgr]

I see a wave building in the distance...

 

[tvolsfan]

if its announced today before midnight counting, relatively few.

the longer it drags on, the more questions are going to be raised.

if you want to get rid of the questions about who won you just need a transparent election process.

There are people on this board who could count the votes themselves and still not believe them if Trump lost.

 

[evillawyer]

Walsh is so easy to dunk on. It's like MJ in his prime trying to dunk over ... Matt Walsh.

 

[rekinhavoc]

If Harris is 50.15 and Trump is 49.85 that is 0.30 popular vote advantage to Harris.

According to Nate Silver's electoral to popular vote model Trump could be at 293 electoral votes.


All subject to change. Nate basically says we don't know. Hang on.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Ezekiel 23:20 is pretty dang sexual.

several instances of incest covered. Genesis 19:32-35, is probably the best known. and not just sex but women using alcohol to take advantage of their dad. I have read less salacious stuff in Hustler.

its not like any of the cases of sex in the Bible are really necessary to the theme or overarching story, no matter how they are phrased.

I mean, it's a history book, not a story.

It's explaining what happened and how we all got to where we are now.

 

[utvolpj]

I see a wave building in the distance...

My precinct was empty. Only took a few minutes

 

[LouderVol]

Yeah, 100%. The Supreme Court stuff is another good example. A lot of the media and opinion stuff around SCOTUS paints them as being corrupt when 95% of their decisions are pretty justifiable.

I get that, it wasn’t about what you believe or how much you engage in that. Just it’s part of the effect of social media, cable news, and rhetoric.

Do you think this should be investigated and there should be a “day of reckoning?”

I think it was investigated. it was another case of "at this point what difference does it make" after the findings stated all of the shady stuff was done as the "conspiracy theories" said.

I have no clue what the statue of limitations is, but yes if they are found guilty in a court of law there should be a day of reckoning.

at the very least those involved, with the above caveats, should be banned from participating in elections or political office going forward.

as you sort of mention with the 24hr news cycle, social media, and rhetoric it currently doesn't matter how much the Democrats lied and cheated about this. they get the initial story out that the Rs did something completely made up. that is all that matters in the mind of the public. doesn't matter if they have to take everything back months later, what people believe won't be changed from the initial impression. same goes with the job reports, and crime statistics. you release something positive at first, and it doesn't matter if the negative truth comes out later, people have already moved on. and no one is held accountable for what should be fraud.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

NBC will argue that SNL wasn’t partisan. It was highly slanted.

The FCC really should take the broadcast licenses back from the networks. PBS as well.

NBC will argue that NBC isn't partisan.

 

[evillawyer]

I love the time honored tradition of meaningless anecdotes on election day.

 

[volfanhill]

I'm feeling pretty good that Kamala is going to get PA and most of the swing states. I think she loses AZ, GA and NC. NV is all over the place, but the Puerto Rico comments hurt Trump with Latinos.

Ever since that joke was told momentum has been on Harris’s side.

 

[evillawyer]

Yes, this tends to happen when you replace your normal friends with incels.

 

[luthervol]

I believe Tennessee won the 2021 Music City Bowl. The referees said otherwise. So it is possible to acknowledge the official verdict (the record books will always show a loss) while still believing you actually won. And in 30 years you will still be talking with your friends over a beer about how you really win.
That’s the way I try to explain the situation at least. I hike that helps

That's actually pretty good. There are games every week where the losing team actually feels as if they should have won.

The next level is "was there actually a conspiracy against your team?"

 

[evillawyer]

Ever since that joke was told momentum has been on Harris’s side.

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Just a classic case of a move with absolutely NO upside (Trump already has the racist vote) but huge downside (Latino voters who were just barely with Trump in swing states). Shows how dumb Trump's team is for allowing that joke to go forward (they struck a joke where he called Kamala a c*nt).

 

[volgr]

Democrats need HUGE turnout as early voting was close to disastrous for them...maybe they show up after their noon wakeup.

 

[evillawyer]

Trump's closing argument for women.

 

[Majors]

NBC will argue that NBC isn't partisan.

They believe they are saving democracy by their opinions being reported as facts. Joe hasn’t talked with her for a reason.

 

[Majors]

Trump's closing argument for women.

Are you saying he’s wrong on Nancy? Isn’t she the one who pushed your President out by withholding campaign donations?

 

[LouderVol]

There are people on this board who could count the votes themselves and still not believe them if Trump lost.

sure. but what about everyone else?

I despise Trump. I am one of the original never Trumpers on this board. But I know from second hand information there was no leak in Mercedes Benz stadium to shut down counting last time. *I am an idiot I got the wrong location, which would explain why my friend knew nothing about it*

then you have videos of the counters putting up panels to keep the observers from seeing anything.

even this time there was a video, from Kentucky I believe, where the voter was trying to click on Donald Trump and it never did but eventually registered a vote for Kamala.

then you have the flat refusal to even require basic ID to vote.

heck you can even throw in the ballot box burnings, the "voting officials" turning people away and several other cases of conservatives up to shady, if not illegal, stuff. its not a one sided issue. none of gives much confidence that we can really trust what is happening.

with all of those circumstances, and exceptionally long counting periods, questions are always going to creep in, even for those without a side.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

There are people on this board who could count the votes themselves and still not believe them if Trump lost.

That goes both ways

 

[RockyTop85]

I think it was investigated. it was another case of "at this point what difference does it make" after the findings stated all of the shady stuff was done as the "conspiracy theories" said.

I have no clue what the statue of limitations is, but yes if they are found guilty in a court of law there should be a day of reckoning.

at the very least those involved, with the above caveats, should be banned from participating in elections or political office going forward.

as you sort of mention with the 24hr news cycle, social media, and rhetoric it currently doesn't matter how much the Democrats lied and cheated about this. they get the initial story out that the Rs did something completely made up. that is all that matters in the mind of the public. doesn't matter if they have to take everything back months later, what people believe won't be changed from the initial impression. same goes with the job reports, and crime statistics. you release something positive at first, and it doesn't matter if the negative truth comes out later, people have already moved on. and no one is held accountable for what should be fraud.

I’m going to forego asking it another way to see if you figure it out and just say that I’m glad that everybody finally came around to my side of that argument.

Alternative theory: Maybe they didn’t ignore the word “retired.” I’m not an election lawyer or campaign lawyer, this isn’t legal advice, but I don’t think it’s illegal to hire foreign citizens to help a campaign. What statute does that violate?

 

[Majors]

That goes both ways

Nice use of reverse UNO

 

[MontyPython]

A friendly reminder to you and Oprah that nobody voted for Kamala as the nominee. This isn’t a wheelhouse topic for them to advocate and get applause on.

Wasn’t her message about not letting “other people” control their life. Liberal oligarch getting a pass.

It seems curious that a Republican thinks they should dictate who the Democratic nominee will be.

The political process is and was ugly. Ultimately, the Dems have a far better candidate than Joe in Kamala.

Let the chips fall where they may today.