2024 Presidential Race

Trump is leading in some polls now, and still could lose the battleground states..I have seen political pundits even discuss it. Your +3 narrative is just based on 2016 and 2020 paths that just happened to occur, but doesnt make it the only visble possibility.

The obvious answer here is that Trump has consistently outperformed the polling averages and people were anticipating it happening again. And it did
 
Does this mean we have fair elections again? I can't help but notice that nobody is discussing how "rigged" the American democratic system of elections is this morning .... I haven't seen any posts about election security.

It does illustrate one point : You only whined 4 years ago .... because Trump lost.
I have seen that from lefties on another platform.

It's just sour grapes, imo.
 
The economy was good in October, I was there.

The issue is where did these 17-18 million Dem "voters" go in 2024 that voted in 2020? If just half of them voted for Harris she may have won.
Fake Ballots . Millions more votes than registered voters. They couldn't pull that same chit this time, too many security measures implemented.
 
Does this mean we have fair elections again? I can't help but notice that nobody is discussing how "rigged" the American democratic system of elections is this morning .... I haven't seen any posts about election security.

It does illustrate one point : You only whined 4 years ago .... because Trump lost.
No. Now that Republicans will likely hold the Presidency, the Senate, and the House, we'll get to work passing federal laws requiring stricter election security, including voter ID.
 
Yep.

The democrats cheated in 2020. It’s beyond clear to us now.
It was beyond clear 4 years ago.

The vote count randomly stopping when it never had before. The massive dump of votes at one time, in several states, all for the same candidate, which just so happened to be the amount needed to win the state. The bombing in Nashville outside the building where the dominion voting machines were about to be audited. The insane number of votes “received” for Biden. All pure coincidence, right?
 
It's a pretty normal human sentiment for people to want other people to do something "the right way" if that's how they did it, but I don't think it means anything. They should resent the process, not people trying to make a better life for themselves. I promise you that Jesus doesn't have "disdain" for them. We should try to be more like Jesus (pronounced hey-soos).
While agree with the idealism, I was sharing my anecdotal of what is rather than what should be....oh no, im starting to sound like Harris.

I am still of the mind the legal, voting immigrants didn't vote against their own self interests in record numbers.

No argument or issue if that's where you are, though.
 
I have seen that from lefties on another platform.

It's just sour grapes, imo.
Sour grapes were what Republicans did 4 years ago. This is called holding people accountable for past transgressions.

Basically :

Elections are fair when Republicans win ....

Elections are fraudulent when Republicans lose.

Kari Lake is going to claim that her Senate election defeat in Arizona was rigged, but does that make any sense at all? If Democrats were going to rig her election, then why didn't they rig the Presidential Election on the same damn ballot?
 

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