2024 Presidential Race

The obvious answer here is that Trump has consistently outperformed the polling averages and people were anticipating it happening again. And it did
I was wrong, but we were not discussing polling. I was talking Trump winning the popular vote, which he did, but not the EC. Why you are bringing things up out of context from a post 3 weeks is odd.
 
Sour grapes were what Republicans did 4 years ago. This is called holding people accountable for past transgressions.

Basically :

Elections are fair when Republicans win ....

Elections are fraudulent when Republicans lose.

Kari Lake is going to claim that her Senate election defeat in Arizona was rigged, but does that make any sense at all? If Democrats were going to rig her election, then why didn't they rig the Presidential Election on the same damn ballot?

A difference of 15 Million votes.........come on
 
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Sour grapes were what Republicans did 4 years ago. This is called holding people accountable for past transgressions.

Basically :

Elections are fair when Republicans win ....

Elections are fraudulent when Republicans lose.

Kari Lake is going to claim that her election defeat in Arizona was rigged, but does that make any sense at all? If Democrats were going to rig her election, then why didn't they rig the Presidential Election on the same damn ballot?

Lol. No it’s because republicans are racist, misogynist, etc….even the blacks, Hispanics, and women. 🤣
 
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R.I.P. Hollywood Celebrity Presidential Endorsements: Taylor Swift, George Clooney, Robert De Niro, Beyonce Fail to Secure Victory for Kamala​


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The combined star power of Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Cardi B, Jennifer Lopez, George Clooney, Julia Roberts, Bruce Springsteen, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert De Niro and many, many more failed to carry Kamala Harris over the finish line on Tuesday — a humiliating defeat for the entertainment industry, which had mobilized many of its biggest celebrities this election cycle in the service of the Democrat party.

@evillawyer assured me this was going the be the difference maker.
 
There are a lot of 3 letter agency folks sweating like a ho in church today.
That hasn’t usually worked out too well for a POTUS. Especially when the current President-Elect has said he would open all the redacted files about the murder of a previous POTUS who had issues w/ 3 letter agencies.
 
Sour grapes were what Republicans did 4 years ago. This is called holding people accountable for past transgressions.

Basically :

Elections are fair when Republicans win ....

Elections are fraudulent when Republicans lose.

Kari Lake is going to claim that her Senate election defeat in Arizona was rigged, but does that make any sense at all? If Democrats were going to rig her election, then why didn't they rig the Presidential Election on the same damn ballot?
I agree. I tried to help all the "stolen election" folks four years ago.

Heck, I tried early this morning to help a poster still adhering to the 'unusual number of votes' for years ago for Biden.
 
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The economy was good in October, I was there.

The issue is where did these 17-18 million Dem "voters" go in 2024 that voted in 2020? If just half of them voted for Harris she may have won.

It wasnt good for a lot of people in October
2020. It was fine for me then and this economy is fine for me now. But for a lot of people, it wasnt. Not blaming Trump for that but others did.

Wait until CA gets done counting before you compare overall vote totals. But Trump will end up around 75 million and she will end up with a million or two less. Ill assume she will be 7-8 million less than Biden.

Now, where did that difference go? A 5% change in suburban voting habits is 5 million people. That was what we pretty much saw
night. DJT making inroads with black males, Hispanics helps. She was less likable than Biden. Lots of reasons.
 
It wasnt good for a lot of people in October
2020. It was fine for me then and this economy is fine for me now. But for a lot of people, it wasnt. Not blaming Trump for that but others did.

Wait until CA gets done counting before you compare overall vote totals. But Trump will end up around 75 million and she will end up with a million or two less. Ill assume she will be 7-8 million less than Biden.

Now, where did that difference go? A 5% change in suburban voting habits is 5 million people. That was what we pretty much saw
night. DJT making inroads with black males, Hispanics helps. She was less likable than Biden. Lots of reasons.
You are reasonable ....
 
Sour grapes were what Republicans did 4 years ago. This is called holding people accountable for past transgressions.

Basically :

Elections are fair when Republicans win ....

Elections are fraudulent when Republicans lose.

Kari Lake is going to claim that her Senate election defeat in Arizona was rigged, but does that make any sense at all? If Democrats were going to rig her election, then why didn't they rig the Presidential Election on the same damn ballot?

Nope, this election was fraudulent too.
 
It wasnt good for a lot of people in October
2020. It was fine for me then and this economy is fine for me now. But for a lot of people, it wasnt. Not blaming Trump for that but others did.

Wait until CA gets done counting before you compare overall vote totals. But Trump will end up around 75 million and she will end up with a million or two less. Ill assume she will be 7-8 million less than Biden.

Now, where did that difference go? A 5% change in suburban voting habits is 5 million people. That was what we pretty much saw
night. DJT making inroads with black males, Hispanics helps. She was less likable than Biden. Lots of reasons.
You try to find a way to reduce the numbers between Biden and Harris. At the end of the day there will still be millions of missing Dem voters in 2024 from 2020
 
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So 15 Million just said, nah not voting today.

Had nothing to do with precautionary measures installed since, ie additional ppl watching, judges stepping in and saying can't allow this or that..... hmm Ok I buy it!

California has 10 million to count.....Given how that will go, that's going to be half of your 15 million who said F it...
 
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