2024 Presidential Race

[KB5252]

Kind of true for the middle 50. Harris wasn't appealing enough to get enough "anybody but Trump" votes. She has no ability to resonate with voters

Agreed, her political career at this level is dead. She can't add to a ticket. Not sure what her next move would be.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Sad life that an ideologue like her could make your day. It's cool if you're happy about it. Hats off!

Nah, it's the childish temper tantrum that makes it great

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Agreed, her political career at this level is dead. She can't add to a ticket. Not sure what her next move would be.

She's got McDonald's experience. . . right?

 

[StarRaider]

I’m technically in Group 3, a societal outcast looking for a circle who will take me in. Here’s where things get tricky though. I identify as a Group 4 male Hispanic. A bad hombre to be exact.

 

[dovervolz]

Not going to lie, had to google speigel.

A bit before your time pepper? We used to order some good ( cheap) stuff Speigel's catalog.

 

[StarRaider]

Agreed, her political career at this level is dead. She can't add to a ticket. Not sure what her next move would be.

teach a gun safety class

 

[RockyTop85]

I’ve come to the conclusion that there have been generally 3 types of Trump voters:

1. Traditional Republicans/conservatives that refuse to abandon their ideals, so they just swallow the bitter Trump pill

2. Far right and evangelical voters who are using Trump as their vehicle to pass extreme right laws and set extreme right court precedents in the name of their religious and/or far right beliefs.

3. Societal outcasts who feel a sense of belonging in the Trump social circles. It’s nothing substantive in their core beliefs that drives them, but the spectacle, the fandom, and the camaraderie.

But now, I think a significant (enough) 4th type has brought this one home for Donny and company….

4. Male Hispanic voters who would rather vote for someone that scapegoats them than a woman.

Think you left out Center-right Americans who don’t see their values or ideas represented in the far-left wing of the Democratic Party that Harris ran as in 2019.

Hispanics probably made a difference in AZ and ran up the score in Florida, but I’d be shocked if PA, MI, and WI (or GA) flipped because of Hispanics.

 

[Ttucke11]

So do Dems double down and keep screaming Nazi racist anytime someone disagrees on their favorite color or are they going to become a somewhat competent political party? I'm leaning on the former.

 

[wtmvol]

Agreed, her political career at this level is dead. She can't add to a ticket. Not sure what her next move would be.

She could drive a yellow school bus. She loves those things.

 

[Ttucke11]

I’ve come to the conclusion that there have been generally 3 types of Trump voters:

1. Traditional Republicans/conservatives that refuse to abandon their ideals, so they just swallow the bitter Trump pill

2. Far right and evangelical voters who are using Trump as their vehicle to pass extreme right laws and set extreme right court precedents in the name of their religious and/or far right beliefs.

3. Societal outcasts who feel a sense of belonging in the Trump social circles. It’s nothing substantive in their core beliefs that drives them, but the spectacle, the fandom, and the camaraderie.

But now, I think a significant (enough) 4th type has brought this one home for Donny and company….

4. Male Hispanic voters who would rather vote for someone that scapegoats them than a woman.

Y'all still don't get it. That's why the Dems got boat raced. Little echo chambers and thought bubbles. And zero introspection.

 

[StarRaider]

So do Dems double down and keep screaming Nazi racist anytime someone disagrees on their favorite color or are they going to become a somewhat competent political party? I'm leaning on the former.

dims calling their political opponents "fascist" is a tradition going back (at least) 80 years

 

[KptVFL]

Agreed, her political career at this level is dead. She can't add to a ticket. Not sure what her next move would be.

MSNBC?

 

[85SugarVol]

The Democrats still have the Filibuster to use as a bulwark against Trump.
- Alex Wagner MSNBC

 

[KB5252]

I just saw Portnoy's video on why Democrats lost..... It's very much in line with my thoughts. As someone who didn't support either of the candidates I feel like there wasn't a great choice..... But there was only one choice, if you forced me to make one.

For the record I lost my right to vote as a stupid young man. And I have many old friends who've lost their rights as well.

I will tell you from discussion with them..... Felons who've lost their rights to vote often work construction with illegal aliens and legal workers from across the border......... And it's not uncommon to find out through discussion on job sites that they have voted ........... And that's a huge problem for them.

They can understand the consequences of their actions....... And even though they completely changed their lives and have paid taxes, stayed out of trouble for decades they can't vote and participate in the process that affects their children......... But a guy can come to this country as a guest worker, or illegally and cast a vote they can't........... That sticks with you!

 

[KB5252]

MSNBC?

She isn't quick enough on the fly in conversation, she can't carry a show.

 

[KptVFL]

She isn't quick enough on the fly in conversation, she can't carry a show.

Agree

 

[RockyTop85]

The Democrats still have the Filibuster to use as a bulwark against Trump.
- Alex Wagner MSNBC

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What was the final senate composition? Did that independent guy in the Midwest end up losing?

 

[C-south]

What was the final senate composition? Did that independent guy in the Midwest end up losing?

I think there’s still 4 not decided. 52-44 right now.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

A bit before your time pepper? We used to order some good ( cheap) stuff Speigel's catalog.

Sounds like it. I was born in ‘83.

 

[DaddyChad]

She isn't quick enough on the fly in conversation, she can't carry a show.

She can inject that infectious laugh into discussions.

 

[volfanhill]

I just saw Portnoy's video on why Democrats lost..... It's very much in line with my thoughts. As someone who didn't support either of the candidates I feel like there wasn't a great choice..... But there was only one choice, if you forced me to make one.

For the record I lost my right to vote as a stupid young man. And I have many old friends who've lost their rights as well.

I will tell you from discussion with them..... Felons who've lost their rights to vote often work construction with illegal aliens and legal workers from across the border......... And it's not uncommon to find out through discussion on job sites that they have voted ........... And that's a huge problem for them.

They can understand the consequences of their actions....... And even though they completely changed their lives and have paid taxes, stayed out of trouble for decades they can't vote and participate in the process that affects their children......... But a guy can come to this country as a guest worker, or illegally and cast a vote they can't........... That sticks with you!

You, and all others who completed their sentences, should have their voting rights restored.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Depends on how you look at it. I don't think those 15 million voters were real to begin with. A lot of evidence points that direction.

THIS

 

[dovervolz]

Kamala lost so badly that FEMA sent her a check for $750.

LMAO

 

[KB5252]

Is JD Vance Adam Lambert's straight twin?

 

[HighRockvol]

I’ve come to the conclusion that there have been generally 3 types of Trump voters:

1. Traditional Republicans/conservatives that refuse to abandon their ideals, so they just swallow the bitter Trump pill

2. Far right and evangelical voters who are using Trump as their vehicle to pass extreme right laws and set extreme right court precedents in the name of their religious and/or far right beliefs.

3. Societal outcasts who feel a sense of belonging in the Trump social circles. It’s nothing substantive in their core beliefs that drives them, but the spectacle, the fandom, and the camaraderie.

But now, I think a significant (enough) 4th type has brought this one home for Donny and company….

4. Male Hispanic voters who would rather vote for someone that scapegoats them than a woman.

I think you need help