2024 Presidential Race

[whodeycin85]

Step back and read what you're writing.

"Policy"-driven administrations shouldn't be focused on "locking someone up" and "building that wall."

Was/Is Hillary corrupt? I have no idea, but I do know some level of corruption to survive at that level of politics is usually essential.
Is immigration a huge problem for our country? Absolutely. So, lay out a long-term plan that will get support from both sides to fix it, rather than working a crowd into a frenzy telling them you're going to build a wall and that Mexico is going to pay for it.

So his "lock her up" exposed the corruption...and the wall would have slowed immigration flooding our borders. So he needed to expand on both of those but wasnt able as he was fighting both side if the isle. He needs a long term plan for both...

How would you feel if he started indicting everyone he knew associated with the fake Russia dossier and those that signed for the warrant???

 

[turbovol]

MTG sounds ready to switch parties here! Is she taking some "get smarter" pills?

 

[lostsheep]

You've hit on it. There is no MAGA/gangster/GOP agenda except fear and anxiety that it's not 1950 anymore. They don't like it that women are smart and don't want stand in the kitchen all day making chicken salad and deviled eggs. They don't like smart, ambitious, independent women. They're afraid that black people will be treated fairly. They're afraid that there is no "god"--because there isn't. They hate immigrants even though we're a nation of immigrants. Look at the GOP-led House: It's done nothing. It has no policy priorities other than trying to smear Biden. Trump, when president, in fact did nothing. Where was the health-insurance reform that he and the GOP promised: it didn't happen. The Dems work to improve the country and the only agenda Republicans have is opposing everything the Dems do or try to do. Oh, and they like to give tax breaks to the rich.

Biden has accomplished far more than the gangster---the chip/science legislation and infrastructure were huge. Republicans don't even want to improve infrastructure in America. In fact, conservatives today WANT a return to 1950. That IS their agenda. That's how bizarre they are. We're talking about crazies who think rape victims should have the rapist's baby. They're out of their freakin' minds. That they think that some senile, deeply corrupt, spray-tanned fascistic con man who doesn't respect our laws or system of government--whose campaign "speeches" consist of standing up and rambling nonsensically for 20 minutes, telling lies, making no sense....he's going to save the day! Good luck with that. Everybody in his first administration hates the guy. His wife hates him. It is a measure of how fearful, paranoid and completely stupid some people are that think the gangster is going to "make America great." He's an embarrassment. His supporters are morons: when asked why they support the gangster, they say things like "he's godly," "he doesn't lie," "he can't be bought." And we react by saying: Did you people just arrive from Neptune? What planet have you been on? The low IQ, low information crowd. Oh, my.

We can agree to disagree on the "there is no 'god'" part, but you're correct concerning a lack of a clearly defined and explained plan on how to fix all that ails us.

MAGA does use fear in order to politicize Christianity, IMO. Good-hearted Christians are concerned about transgender policies and other so-called "woke" items influencing our culture.
However, no where in the Bible does is say that Christianity should be the "law of the land" or used as a governing model.

I wish they'd understand the way to influence the culture around them is to pray for their enemies and love their neighbors as themselves. Any attempt at nationalizing Christianity will end up in failure, as this isn't the way to change a culture.

 

[hog88]

Are you better off financially today than you were 4 years ago? Usually a winning strategy.

On my browser news feed a "breaking news story" was on the scroll about our booming economy. Right below that was a story about Microsoft laying off 1500 people then scroll down and see stuff about Ebay, Google and Meta laying off thousands.

 

[turbovol]

So his "lock her up" exposed the corruption...and the wall would have slowed immigration flooding our borders. So he needed to expand on both of those but wasnt able as he was fighting both side if the isle. He needs a long term plan for both...

How would you feel if he started indicting everyone he knew associated with the fake Russia dossier and those that signed for the warrant???

Clinton wasn't corrupt AT ALL. Just because MAGA want to think she was corrupt only proves that MAGA live in a fantasy world. They don't like Dems and make stupid comments that have no basis in fact to support their political bias. And, meanwhile, the gangster is the most transparently and brazenly corrupt president in America history--and it's all documented and obvious and plain to see.

MAGA would look far less foolish and stupid if they just said, "i don't like Dems and will vote Republican" and leave it at that.

But no: They need their "alternative reality" stupidity---like the guy on this board who posted above that Biden is a "dictator wannabe" because he wants to run for reelection and uses executive orders. Oh, my. Just say "i prefer Republicans" and leave it that--and don't try to justify your viewpoint with comments that are patently illogical, completely untrue and glaringly stupid.

 

[volgr]

This is the answer of someone who has been taught to say any media that doesn't agree with your thoughts/feelings is fake.

Right, right it is just a coincidence the media was wrong about Russia, wrong about Covid, wrong about the Biden laptop being Russian disinfo, wrong about WMD, wrong about Ukraine, wrong about Benghazi, etc, etc ,etc...

No one should have teach me to say our media is mostly fabricated narratives or fake news...just me keeping my head out of my a$$ and not being a total naive drooling sheep, did the trick.

 

[volgr]

Clinton wasn't corrupt AT ALL.

Is this dude for real??

 

[whodeycin85]

Is this dude for real??

Pretty sure he is functionally retarded

 

[PEPPERJAX]

There is no agenda for Republicans/maga/gangster other than "we hate progressives, blacks, immigrants, gays and independent women."

That is the right-wing agenda, summed up.

Honest ? man

Who do run into or associate with that falls into the category of the bold above? I do realize that racism, sexism, and bigotry still exist but it is on the smallest scale ever in the history of our nation. Most people R or D are pretty accepting these days or have a live and let live mentality. Or maybe I hang out with more level headed people than you.

 

[turbovol]

Honest ? man

Who do run into or associate with that falls into the category of the bold above? I do realize that racism, sexism, and bigotry still exist but it is on the smallest scale ever in the history of our nation. Most people R or D are pretty accepting these days or have a live and let live mentality. Or maybe I hang out with more level headed people than you.

So then what policy agenda do Republicans have? Answer: Nothing much. The GOP-led House did nothing. Republicans themselves have complained about it. Biden's Infrastructure and chip/science bills will help this country far more than anything the gangster did--or would ever do. You've got Republicans all over the country touting the coming infrastructure improvements in their district when they all voted against the bill. That's how they roll. They won't do a border bill now, for political reasons

There is room for Dems and Republicans to start compromising more--and we have to.

 

[volgr]

Hillary was so corrupt, even America's most vile racists, Leftist Democrats, elected a gay half black man married to a transgender, for President. They were so embarrassed by that, for the last 10 years they have been diligently working to normalize transgenderism.

A touch of that story is exaggerated for comedic effect, I will let the reader decide which part is dangling a little lower than it should.

 

[lostsheep]

Right, right it is just a coincidence the media was wrong about Russia, wrong about Covid, wrong about the Biden laptop being Russian disinfo, wrong about WMD, wrong about Ukraine, wrong about Benghazi, etc, etc ,etc...

No one should have teach me to say our media is mostly fabricated narratives or fake news...just me keeping my head out of my a$$ and not being a total naive drooling sheep, did the trick.

I didn't say the media is correct about everything.

My point is the MAGA movement claims any media that isn't flattery for them is in fact "fake news."
Are there some media outlets more left-leaning than others?? Absolutely.
Are there are many media outlets that are right-leaning?? Absolutely.

Being able to discern for yourself what is right and wrong based on doing due diligence is better than accepting the propaganda machine's output.

 

[lostsheep]

Hillary was so corrupt, even America's most vile racists, Leftist Democrats, elected a gay half black man married to a transgender, for President. They were so embarrassed by that, for the last 10 years they have been diligently working to normalize transgenderism.

A touch of that story is exaggerated for comedic effect, I will let the reader decide which part is dangling a little lower than it should.

See my earlier post about MAGA preying on the fears of people afraid the demographics of their culture is changing and don't know how to handle it.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

So then what policy agenda do Republicans have? Answer: Nothing much. The GOP-led House did nothing. Republicans themselves have complained about it. Biden's Infrastructure and chip/science bills will help this country far more than anything the gangster did--or would ever do. You've got Republicans all over the country touting the coming infrastructure improvements in their district when they all voted against the bill. That's how they roll. They won't do a border bill now, for political reasons

There is room for Dems and Republicans to start compromising more--and we have to.

Pretty much the same agenda that Biden has. Hey, at least I ain't Trump and vice versa. Totally agree with about compromising. Btw, thanks for dodging my question earlier. Stop listening to goof tards from the view about race relations in this country.

 

[lostsheep]

On my browser news feed a "breaking news story" was on the scroll about our booming economy. Right below that was a story about Microsoft laying off 1500 people then scroll down and see stuff about Ebay, Google and Meta laying off thousands.

What does a comparison of GDP growth, unemployment rate, and inflation rate look like under Trump and Biden? Shouldn't this be a starting point for economical discussion, rather than your reaction to a scroll on your PC?

 

[volgr]

I didn't say the media is correct about everything.

My point is the MAGA movement claims any media that isn't flattery for them is in fact "fake news."
Are there some media outlets more left-leaning than others?? Absolutely.
Are there are many media outlets that are right-leaning?? Absolutely.

Being able to discern for yourself what is right and wrong based on doing due diligence is better than accepting the propaganda machine's output.

All mainstream media is propaganda to support the establishment ruling class in America. You are right, some is left leaning and some is right leaning but it all funnels back to the same pot.

 

[hog88]

What does a comparison of GDP growth, unemployment rate, and inflation rate look like under Trump and Biden? Shouldn't this be a starting point for economical discussion, rather than your reaction to a scroll on your PC?

My post was simply about the BS reports that this administration puts out, they are almost always revised (in the wrong direction) a month or two later but that's never a headline. When people see in their daily lives capital projects being delayed or canceled, mass layoffs, necessities increasing in price, home ownership being put out of reach, these BS numbers mean nothing.

 

[volgr]

See my earlier post about MAGA preying on the fears of people afraid the demographics of their culture is changing and don't know how to handle it.

It was a joke. No one fears half blacks, gays or half black gays. They do fear half black gay men used to sell socialism and cultural decay.

 

[volfanhill]

So then what policy agenda do Republicans have? Answer: Nothing much. The GOP-led House did nothing. Republicans themselves have complained about it. Biden's Infrastructure and chip/science bills will help this country far more than anything the gangster did--or would ever do. You've got Republicans all over the country touting the coming infrastructure improvements in their district when they all voted against the bill. That's how they roll. They won't do a border bill now, for political reasons

There is room for Dems and Republicans to start compromising more--and we have to.

Why would one want to compromise, or associate themselves, with people who accuse them of “hate progressives, blacks, immigrants, gays and independent women."


You are a major part of the problem.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Hillary was so corrupt, even America's most vile racists, Leftist Democrats, elected a gay half black man married to a transgender, for President. They were so embarrassed by that, for the last 10 years they have been diligently working to normalize transgenderism.

A touch of that story is exaggerated for comedic effect, I will let the reader decide which part is dangling a little lower than it should.

LULZ

What drugs are on the menu today dude?

 

[JOEY’S ALL VOL !!!]

My post was simply about the BS reports that this administration puts out, they are almost always revised (in the wrong direction) a month or two later but that's never a headline. When people see in their daily lives capital projects being delayed or canceled, mass layoffs, necessities increasing in price, home ownership being put out of reach, these BS numbers mean nothing.

All people, but especially the middle working class tend to (unless they are completely partisan regardless of facts) actually look in their wallets and bank accounts instead of the media propaganda to determine the actual state of the economy. Thus ... the Biden poll numbers.

 

[hog88]

Why would one want to compromise, or associate themselves, with people who accuse them of “hate progressives, blacks, immigrants, gays and independent women."


You are a major part of the problem.

Plus the word compromise means "do exactly what we want you to do" to democrats.

 

[lostsheep]

My post was simply about the BS reports that this administration puts out, they are almost always revised (in the wrong direction) a month or two later but that's never a headline. When people see in their daily lives capital projects being delayed or canceled, mass layoffs, necessities increasing in price, home ownership being put out of reach, these BS numbers mean nothing.

Right.
Carry on with your conjecture.

 

[lostsheep]

All mainstream media is propaganda to support the establishment ruling class in America. You are right, some is left leaning and some is right leaning but it all funnels back to the same pot.

In other words, the MAGA movement has trained you well.

 

[turbovol]

The Biden campaign and Dems should be ready to hammer the gangster and the GOP over this cynical bull$hit.