2024 Recruiting Thread

[sgacock]

Consider

Harvard, Penn, Duke and all those small colleges that focus on law, doctors, etc with a high ratio of graduating superior earners realizing what their deep pocket alumni's could do to affect NIL.

So far we have yet to see this impact,,,but consider how impossible it will be to compete with them it will be if they wise up and take advantage of their graduates/alumni/boosters...Then it will get messy (er)

I don't see it. Harvard and the Ivies don't even give scholarships. Their megabucks donors don't have any motivation to see their sports in competition wit the P-5's. They make donations for chairs of departments like international political strategies, medicine, law etc. Even Stanford & Cal who have played the P-5 game doesn't have many athletic donors.

Sports are minor matters to the donors to those schools.

 

[Volfan2012]

To be honest Blakes is already better then Wynn , Strickland and Darby , so I’d take her and call it a day when it comes to guards for 2024.

I really like Kayleigh Heckel of the guards we have left. but doubt she will come all the way down to Tennessee. She scored 53 in a High School game took over the game in the last half when her team was down by double digits. Everytime the other team would score she would answer and when they didn't score she kept scoring and in the end her team won. I believe we'll take the first one that commits whomever that will be.

 

[Knoxvol14]

I really like Kayleigh Heckel of the guards we have left. but doubt she will come all the way down to Tennessee. She scored 53 in a High School game took over the game in the last half when her team was down by double digits. Everytime the other team would score she would answer and when they didn't score she kept scoring and in the end her team won. I believe we'll take the first one that commits whomever that will be.

She's a hard one to read because she rarely posts anything. I have noticed she posts often on our players' posts, so I would at least think she liked the team.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I don't see it. Harvard and the Ivies don't even give scholarships. Their megabucks donors don't have any motivation to see their sports in competition wit the P-5's. They make donations for chairs of departments like international political strategies, medicine, law etc. Even Stanford & Cal who have played the P-5 game doesn't have many athletic donors.

Sports are minor matters to the donors to those schools.

Tell that to duke

 

[NeedOrange]

I believe you guys are focusing a bit much on NIL. there are some schools that do not discuss NIL with a recruit. their attitude is that if you aren't here for the basketball then we don't want you.

 

[Voltopia]

I believe you guys are focusing a bit much on NIL. there are some schools that do not discuss NIL with a recruit. their attitude is that if you aren't here for the basketball then we don't want you.

Yeah, okay, but I'm willing to bet LSU discusses NIL with their recruits, and anyone around their recruits, and probably even random people in the stands at the recruits' games. And from what I can tell, well, it ain't hurtin' their sales pitch.

 

[Memvol44]

I believe you guys are focusing a bit much on NIL. there are some schools that do not discuss NIL with a recruit. their attitude is that if you aren't here for the basketball then we don't want you.

Your dreaming.... that's ALL it's about...

 

[Knoxvol14]

I believe you guys are focusing a bit much on NIL. there are some schools that do not discuss NIL with a recruit. their attitude is that if you aren't here for the basketball then we don't want you.

Kellie in an interview said every recruit has asked about it, so yes it matters to some extent. Some of these schools aren't getting the top players they get without a good NIL deal.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Kellie in an interview said every recruit has asked about it, so yes it matters to some extent. Some of these schools aren't getting the top players they get without a good NIL deal.

Kellie and DW did hire that new liaison of NIL affairs… not exactly sure to who she reports.

 

[turbovol]

I believe you guys are focusing a bit much on NIL. there are some schools that do not discuss NIL with a recruit. their attitude is that if you aren't here for the basketball then we don't want you.

And this is the way it should be. The NIL thing is corrupt and seedy BS that should not be associated in any way with college recruiting. Nobody should be getting an NIL deal, IMO, until they've been enrolled in a college/university and playing a sport for at least one year.

 

[chuckiepoo]

And this is the way it should be. The NIL thing is corrupt and seedy BS that should not be associated in any way with college recruiting. Nobody should be getting an NIL deal, IMO, until they've been enrolled in a college/university and playing a sport for at least one year.

Shoulda, woulda and coulda. The structure you desire, formally overseen by the NCAA, had the opportunity to get in front of this and failed. Take it up with the courts or your local representation to Congress.

 

[CoryDallasLV]

Your dreaming.... that's ALL it's about...

Not true, and they're not dreaming. This does happen. NIL makes a difference for a great many players and influences their decision, but that is not the case for every player and especially some of the very elite players no matter how some want to spin it. They are going to get the money they need (if they want it) no matter where they go. In a lot of cases they don't need the school or coaches help at all. Believe it or not, but there are kids at the highest levels who are actually choosing schools because they truly want to go there or play for a certain coach.

 

[turbovol]

Shoulda, woulda and coulda. The structure you desire, formally overseen by the NCAA, had the opportunity to get in front of this and failed. Take it up with the courts or your local representation to Congress.

Congress is working on the issue--though not sure of the status. The NCAA and various conferences have asked Congress to get involved.

Anybody who thinks schools should get into bribery contests to sign the top players is crazy. And NIL was not conceived at all as a recruiting tool; that's just how it's devolved.

 

[Memvol44]

L0l

Not true, and they're not dreaming. This does happen. NIL makes a difference for a great many players and influences their decision, but that is not the case for every player and especially some of the very elite players no matter how some want to spin it. They are going to get the money they need (if they want it) no matter where they go. In a lot of cases they don't need the school or coaches help at all. Believe it or not, but there are kids at the highest levels who are actually choosing schools because they truly want to go there or play for a certain coach.

Lol....

 

[Lucy]

I could argue NILs both ways. Good in theory, high risk of abuse.
The real dirty money, IMO, flows through the AAU system. Pretty sure not all of those coaches and hanger ons are there for the love of the game.

 

[CoryDallasLV]

L0l

Lol....

LOL, laugh all you want but it’s true. Do you know from a personal level? I do. I know plenty of male and female athletes who are choosing schools over others who are guaranteeing or offering more NIL or other dollars. Plenty are still influenced by that but plenty are not. There are still a lot of recruits who can’t be “bought”.

 

[NeedOrange]

L0l

Lol....

I know coaches that will not recruit a player who brings up NIL. Of course the other side of the coin is the recruit knows the school has bench players that are making over $100,000.

 

[Voluble2]

I know coaches that will not recruit a player who brings up NIL. Of course the other side of the coin is the recruit knows the school has bench players that are making over $100,000.

I bet that coach asks about his salary before he agrees to coach at a school though.

 

[turbovol]

I know coaches that will not recruit a player who brings up NIL. Of course the other side of the coin is the recruit knows the school has bench players that are making over $100,000.

Well, then somebody is very foolishly wasting money. The only players who should be getting that kind of money are those who've established themselves as top players in the /conference/. This would be why it's not only corrupt but stupid to give money to prospects.

 

[NeedOrange]

I bet that coach asks about his salary before he agrees to coach at a school though.

duh.. I guess you don't ask about your salary then.

 

[NeedOrange]

Well, then somebody is very foolishly wasting money. The only players who should be getting that kind of money are those who've established themselves as top players in the /conference/. This would be why it's not only corrupt but stupid to give money to prospects.

Wow! you really don't get it do you.

 

[37620VOL]

I bet that coach asks about his salary before he agrees to coach at a school though.

It's bribery, duh

 

[Bakers1]

I believe you guys are focusing a bit much on NIL. there are some schools that do not discuss NIL with a recruit. their attitude is that if you aren't here for the basketball then we don't want you.

NIL is a huge factor and I don't believe some coaches don't talk about it. If they don't it's because they have someone else within the AD who's been given the job to speak to recruits. One of my best friends was a Senior AD for over 35 years in the Big 10 and the old Big East. Believe me NO program will give another program any sort of advantage in recruiting, And NIL is an advantage. You may have heard some coaches don't talk about it but logic alone say that's more than likely not the case.

Name, image and likeness (or NIL) are the three elements that make up “right of publicity”, a legal concept used to prevent or allow the use of an individual to promote a product or service.

I don't I think the NCAA put much thought into NIL when they established some rules etc...There were too many holes. There's two sides to NIL and I can see both arguments. By definition ALONE (see above) I think players absolutely deserve to be compensated. Anyone who thinks NIL is not a factor for most players is fooling themselves. Ask yourself this question - If you were a High School athlete 18 yo an adult etc why wouldn't NIL be a big factor? There is no guarantee you make it to the pros...As a matter of fact most players won't go pro, plus you are 18!!!! LOL . Ask yourself this - If your a High school recruit and your family is from a lower socio-economic standing , your family struggles and I am guessing post pandemic that number has onely increased why wouldn't NIL be a big factor? I could keep going with examples.

I don't think most recruits are going to programs for NIL only. It's a combination of coaches, personal preferences , use of players , program culture academics etc . Those recruits who want to go pro will probably still go to the type of programs where they get great caching and visibility but NIILwill still be a factor within those 25 programs or so .
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Lastly, The NCAA was making money off the 3 elements listed above some might say well they are compensated with scholarships. I am sure these programs were making more off their top players than 4 years tuition and iremember many men's recruits leave after 2-3 years. As far as recruiting and NIL goes it's kind of a mess.

 

[Bakers1]

Congress is working on the issue--though not sure of the status. The NCAA and various conferences have asked Congress to get involved.

Anybody who thinks schools should get into bribery contests to sign the top players is crazy. And NIL was not conceived at all as a recruiting tool; that's just how it's devolved.

NIL exists because of the Supreme Court and anti-trust laws. The ruling was unanimous. NIL is not going aways. Congress has been working on it for 3 years. Multiple bills have come and gone. None that I know are looking to eliminate NIL. They are looking at how to make it uniform and create rules,, create some sort of entity that will rectify disputes, transparency , scholarships health care and other things. NIL isn't going away.

 

[turbovol]

NIL exists because of the Supreme Court and anti-trust laws. The ruling was unanimous. NIL is not going aways. Congress has been working on it for 3 years. Multiple bills have come and gone. None that I know are looking to eliminate NIL. They are looking at how to make it uniform and create rules,, create some sort of entity that will rectify disputes, transparency , scholarships health care and other things. NIL isn't going away.

NIL should be banned as a recruiting incentive. That wasn't at all how NIL was conceived. NIL as a recruiting incentive is just bribery. No business people should get involved in any NIL deals that involve recruiting or prospects that are not students (student-athletes) at a university.