2024 Republican candidates beside Trump

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RockyTop85 said:
Wikipedia says he was a Naval JAG officer assigned to a SEAL unit after graduating from Yale and Harvard Law. It’s basically the same thing, right?
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Though I've never seen an episode of SEALs on TV, I'm aware of its existence plus I achieved the rank of Legendary Eagle on Counter Strike Global Offensive - so I guess you could say that I'm pretty much a SOCOM "operator."
 
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Vol423 said:
Don't count on that moving forward. You have a ton of liberals moving into Nashville as companies and individuals relocate from high tax states like New York and California. I expect Tennessee to flip blue in either 2024 or 2028. I live in AZ, where it was always a foregone conclusion also. Open borders combined with tons of liberals moving in from California and Illinois changed that.
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Not a chance. Atlanta is gigantic. It's bigger than Nashville and Memphis combined, and Georgia still barely squeaked into the blue column. TN is safe R for at least another 20 years unless the parties have a shift of some kind between now and then.

And I say that as a center left moderate. I would love nothing more than for TN to become more politically balanced, but it ain't happening anytime soon.
 
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Vol423 said:
Don't count on that moving forward. You have a ton of liberals moving into Nashville as companies and individuals relocate from high tax states like New York and California. I expect Tennessee to flip blue in either 2024 or 2028. I live in AZ, where it was always a foregone conclusion also. Open borders combined with tons of liberals moving in from California and Illinois changed that.
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We do not have anything remotely close to open borders. We have strict border policies and we spend a lot of money enforcing these policies. We spend over $8b on ICE alone. To say we have open borders is one of the most repeated lies in politics today. We have government failure, not open borders.

Saying we have open borders ignores the fact we do have very restrictive policies. It excludes the conclusion that it might be failing because the version (restrictive and too limited) of immigration policy you want is not enforceable no matter what we do. Ignoring that line of reasoning will just result in more government failure until we figure out we're going about it all wrong..

Also, the people who vote are legal.
 
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n_huffhines said:
We do not have anything remotely close to open borders. We have strict border policies and we spend a lot of money enforcing these policies. We spend over $8b on ICE alone. To say we have open borders is one of the most repeated lies in politics today. We have government failure, not open borders.

Saying we have open borders ignores the fact we do have very restrictive policies. It excludes the conclusion that it might be failing because the version (restrictive and too limited) of immigration policy you want is not enforceable no matter what we do. Ignoring that line of reasoning will just result in more government failure until we figure out we're going about it all wrong..

Also, the people who vote are legal.
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Epic fail.. there are an estimated 10 million illegals that have crossed over since Bidumb was put into office. If you think only legal votes are cast you're more indoctrinated than I thought. 16E7CE28-45CF-4940-B14D-6B72C18AD36F.gif
 
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Rand Paul would be my pick.

No perfect candidates but pretty much everyone is better than Biden.

#LetsGoBrandon
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
You missed the context.

Since you brought it up, MTG really loves this country? Jim Jordan? I noticed in another post of yours where you take pride in being objective. That's the funniest crock of sh** I've read in this forum.
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Oh, no! - you disapprove; I'm burning. I think you mistake 'objective' with entertaining and giving weight to other ideas regardless of their merit, rather than having considered and discarded those without. Or that general comment from observing propensity, is not objective.

I think the context was equating the right and left-most to each other. There is no mirror image for elected Dem Marxists, anarchists - literally enemies of Western society, none more than this country - who are provided cover and given validity by leftist governance from city hall to the WH. No right-wing analogy for the imposition of Newspeak and thought-crime, no collusion of Repub government officials with tech, media, corporate to abridge the 1stA on their behalf since the constitution prohibits them, or weaponizing the DOJ/FBI against parents protesting Marxian racialist, biology-denying K-12 curricula, and sexualizing children. Or doing an opposition candidate's dirty work by weaponizing DOJ/FBI/Intel/media against the candidate and then president. I don't find a whataboutist analogy of the right hating Biden more than they love their liberty, especially since his authoritarian progressivism is the threat. I could go on.

WTH is 'MTG'? Are you MGGP me?
 
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n_huffhines said:
There is a lot of ambiguity in determining who historically is socialist and who is not. Socialism just means government controls the means of production. Basically, every country has some element of that, so are we all socialists? If it's the government controlling all the means of production, then nobody is socialist. Neither ends of that spectrum are useful for conversation, so then we must subjectively determine who is socialist enough in our eyes to count as a socialist.

Look at the US...education is not only a huge industry, but it's one of the most important areas of life. Something like 95% of K-12 education is provided by the government and the government tries to regulate the other 5%. Government is the means of production. Is that enough to qualify us as socialist? Why or why not?

Government provides basically all the means of production in law enforcement and military defense.

We accept this stuff as default and never stop to think about what label to apply to it.
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Saw this meme and it reminded me of this convo ^

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zeppelin128 said:
Nope, I said I was done and tired of homophobia. Never said "I quit".

I've been here for a while, and I'm not going anywhere. Go troll somebody else.
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Semantics.

Typical from a person who types that "they're done" due to rampant homophobia.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
No I wasn't, but keep stalking my posts like a weirdo. All because you got called out for posting bs in a different thread. Absolutely pathetic.
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You were done with this place due to the rampant homophobia.
Clicking the search button on a public forum isn't stalking.
Keep making accusations.........
 
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T Clifton said:
You were done with this place due to the rampant homophobia.
Clicking the search button on a public forum isn't stalking.
Keep making accusations.........
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If you had any ability to read and understand context, I'd explain this to you yet again. But you don't, and it is a waste of my time. All of this, you making a point to single me out tonight, because you got called out on a post of bs you shared. What an incredibly weak, live in my folks' basement type of person you are. I would feel bad for you, if you weren't so petty.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
If you had any ability to read and understand context, I'd explain this to you yet again. But you don't, and it is a waste of my time. All of this, you making a point to single me out tonight, because you got called out on a post of bs you shared. What an incredibly weak, live in my folks' basement type of person you are. I would feel bad for you, if you weren't so petty.
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He's right. The obvious crying you did like a 4th grader gave the impression you were taking your ball and going home. You just walked home and came back.
 
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BreatheUT said:
He's right. The obvious crying you did like a 4th grader gave the impression you were taking your ball and going home. You just walked home and came back.
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No he isn't, you are just jumping on the chance to give me ****. Like a leach.
 
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