2024 Transfer Portal Thread

[GoodTimeVol]

I just hope Sears is done. They’re not just creating scholarship room, they’re creating cap space.

They took 3 HS recruits so not sure you are right either

 

[ThatVolGuy]

I'm guessing it probably wasn't mentioned that we've gone further than UNC in the tournament the last 2 years?

This was strangely absent from their commentary.

Chapel Hill is absolutely despised in the Raleigh area for exactly this kind of elitism.

I can see why. And no doubt, Chapel Hill a cool little town, but when I read smarmy commentary like that, those people just end up making themselves look like narrow-minded dweebs. Knoxville and East Tennessee are fantastic in their own right, and in a lot of ways, UNC's vibe can't compare to an SEC university like Tennessee that has damn near all major sports programs competing for titles. I think a recruit can probably feel that, especially with the setting Tyson experienced at the O&W game right outside of Neyland.

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

I made the mistake of checking the UNC boards last night. Tennessee is apparently the worst basketball program on the face of the earth, Knoxville (and East Tennessee in general) is a backwater wasteland that can't compare to their idyllic little hamlet, and if a recruit so much as breathes the air on their campus, they have no choice but to commit on the spot. I used to pull for UNC against Duke, but now I want their basketball program (and perhaps their school) to collapse in on itself like a dying star. What a bunch of self important blowhards.

They've got a great tradition and I respect their success, but I can't imagine being so warped that you refuse to acknowledge that other schools can be compelling in ways yours won't be able to match.

Add in their decades-long fake class scandal at a supposed academic leader and there is more than enough to despise UNC.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

If you thought the transfer portal was already bad, it is about to get much, much worse.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Seydou Traore, freshman wing, plays at Manhattan is in the portal

Had 13/8/2 against UCONN & 16/8/1 against Kansas.

Averaged 1.3 steals and 1.2 blocks this year as well.

Um, pls.

 

[allvolrecruiting]

They took 3 HS recruits so not sure you are right either

They’re investing into this years team

 

[SoilVol]

If you thought the transfer portal was already bad, it is about to get much, much worse.

Just wait until we start seeing midseason and, dare I say, postseason(?) Transfers?!

It's a slippery slope and it's the NCAAs fault. If they'd been proactive amd worked with everyone to create a logical and reasonable set of rules then everyone would have gone along with it. Now, the precedent has been set legally that the NCAA can't legally enforce a lot of stuff because student athletes aren't employees and arent on contract.

So i fear the only way to stop this progressing to a point where athletes can transfer midseason is to create a system of employment like they do for professional athletes because only then can you enforce transfer and contract rules.

 

[Starchief13VFL]

Are we showing any interest in Walters and Pringle?

 

[GoodTimeVol]

They’re investing into this years team

Ehh they still limited themselves on scholarships based on that fact, sure they are making room but how many scholarships do they have left to give is the question. They will probably get a few transfers but they need help in the post and shooters other than spears…

 

[NighthawkVol]

Ehh they still limited themselves on scholarships based on that fact, sure they are making room but how many scholarships do they have left to give is the question. They will probably get a few transfers but they need help in the post and shooters other than spears…

They had room for the 3 freshmen before guys hit the portal. They’re also losing some seniors.

 

[GoodTimeVol]

They had room for the 3 freshmen before guys hit the portal. They’re also losing some seniors.

Looking at their scholarship numbers at the present moment I see they only have one maybe two scholarships to give right now as we speak…that’s why I said taking 3 freshman is costing them.

 

[GoodTimeVol]

Are we showing any interest in Walters and Pringle?

I hope not

 

[Tanner1010]

pls go get a rebounder

 

[Probably_in_Class]

Add in their decades-long fake class scandal at a supposed academic leader and there is more than enough to despise UNC.

This never got the attention it deserved. They should have had their accreditation as a university pulled immediately. They admitted that ALL students at the university were eligible to take completely fake classes. How did everyone just let that go?

 

[DooleyOrangePants]

Just wait until we start seeing midseason and, dare I say, postseason(?) Transfers?!

It's a slippery slope and it's the NCAAs fault. If they'd been proactive amd worked with everyone to create a logical and reasonable set of rules then everyone would have gone along with it. Now, the precedent has been set legally that the NCAA can't legally enforce a lot of stuff because student athletes aren't employees and arent on contract.

So i fear the only way to stop this progressing to a point where athletes can transfer midseason is to create a system of employment like they do for professional athletes because only then can you enforce transfer and contract rules.

That's where I'm seeing so many people (not so much on the board here, but outside of it in the real world) lose sight on. This entire thing could have been prevented YEARS ago, but the NCAA wanted to keep an iron grip on their kingdom and cash cow. They refused to negotiate or work with outside groups to come up with a feasible framework that would be acceptable to the athletes, school, and other stakeholders. It worked for the longest time, until the dam burst and there's no going back from here.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Their campus was very underwhelming and for a program with the history they have, I thought they would have a better stadium. Terrible traffic on gameday. Also Chapel Hill/Durhan area is not anything special. Durham is more of a dump. East TN and Knoxville is far superior and sits right off the river next to downtown.

And the fact that the entirety of Spring last all of 8 days means CH is the epicenter of pollen hell every spring.

Seriously, school kids bury themselves in it at recess like we used to cover up with sand when we were at the beach.

Most overrated place I ever served time. Best thing to ever come out of Chapel Hill?
I-40 westbound.

(And my boy is so fired up about attending in the Fall; I have failed as a father.)

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Are we showing any interest in Walters and Pringle?

Sounds like a law firm...

 

[Probably_in_Class]

Just wait until we start seeing midseason and, dare I say, postseason(?) Transfers?!

It's a slippery slope and it's the NCAAs fault. If they'd been proactive amd worked with everyone to create a logical and reasonable set of rules then everyone would have gone along with it. Now, the precedent has been set legally that the NCAA can't legally enforce a lot of stuff because student athletes aren't employees and arent on contract.

So i fear the only way to stop this progressing to a point where athletes can transfer midseason is to create a system of employment like they do for professional athletes because only then can you enforce transfer and contract rules.

This is spot on. The NCAA could have been on the forefront of rules by working with the conferences (and hopefully players but I fear that's asking too much humanity of them) to create reasonable transfer and NIL policies. Instead they buried their heads in the sand and then dug in and hung on for so long they had to be torn down by the courts because they kept acting crazy. The NCAA is now a worthless, toothless organization with very little reason to exist.

 

[SoilVol]

That's where I'm seeing so many people (not so much on the board here, but outside of it in the real world) lose sight on. This entire thing could have been prevented YEARS ago, but the NCAA wanted to keep an iron grip on their kingdom and cash cow. They refused to negotiate or work with outside groups to come up with a feasible framework that would be acceptable to the athletes, school, and other stakeholders. It worked for the longest time, until the dam burst and there's no going back from here.

Exactly, and this is honestly a real topic that you can point directly back to the universities themselves, rather than just the NCAA as an organization.

The universities have the most to lose when athletes become employees. Not just in paying out the salaries but also the benefits and insurance (both for the individual and institution) above what a student has. That's really where the universities are saying "we dont want this" behind the scenes while publicly supporting athletes and their cause and saying "we need change" while wagging their finger at the NCAA.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Sounds like a law firm...

Stackable potato chip brokerage.

 

[SoilVol]

This is spot on. The NCAA could have been on the forefront of rules by working with the conferences (and hopefully players but I fear that's asking too much humanity of them) to create reasonable transfer and NIL policies. Instead they buried their heads in the sand and then dug in and hung on for so long they had to be torn down by the courts because they kept acting crazy. The NCAA is now a worthless, toothless organization with very little reason to exist.

One way I see this working out is if the conferences employ the athletes rather than the universities. Conference could support base salaries while universities do NIL. Conferences cover insurance and benefits. Once under contract you can put restrictions on transfers, especially within a conference. The conference can set base salary caps per university and the universities tell the conference how they want to use their salaries per player with mandatory minimums for guys like walk-ons with bonuses for remaining at a university, graduating, etc.

If a guy transfers within conference he loses his bonuses and has to sit a year. If he wants to transfer out of conference he doesn't have to sit, but the conference he wants to go to has to pay a "development" fee to the conference he is leaving. Ultimately taking it from the TV contract payment to the school he goes to. Higher fee for P5 conference, lower fee for G5 conference.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Seydou Traore, freshman wing, plays at Manhattan is in the portal

Had 13/8/2 against UCONN & 16/8/1 against Kansas.

Averaged 1.3 steals and 1.2 blocks this year as well.

Um, pls.

6'7" 215lbs, 3 years, Guard, played 28 games and started 27, 32.3 mpg, 43.3% FG, 25.6% 3PT, 11.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.3 bpg

That dude was putting in work! He did everything for that team. Would be a good pickup


BUTTTT he's not in the portal, the TE from Mississippi State who went to Colorado with the exact same name is

TE Seydou Traore re-enters transfer portal after one spring with the Buffaloes

Seydou Traore is on the move again. The former Arkansas State tight end was at Colorado this spring, but he re-entered his name into the transfer portal on Sunday, BuffStampede.com has learned...

247sports.com

 

[vol94]

I made the mistake of checking the UNC boards last night. Tennessee is apparently the worst basketball program on the face of the earth, Knoxville (and East Tennessee in general) is a backwater wasteland that can't compare to their idyllic little hamlet, and if a recruit so much as breathes the air on their campus, they have no choice but to commit on the spot. I used to pull for UNC against Duke, but now I want their basketball program (and perhaps their school) to collapse in on itself like a dying star. What a bunch of self important blowhards.

They've got a great tradition and I respect their success, but I can't imagine being so warped that you refuse to acknowledge that other schools can be compelling in ways yours won't be able to match.

I’m from Roanoke, VA and was an avid Tarheel fan as a kid growing up in the 70’s and 80’s. I loved MJ, Perkins, Worthy, and others after that ‘82 championship team.

I lived in Raleigh from 1997-2000. While UNC fans have a sense of entitlement, Duke fans are ten times worst. They look down on everyone even though Durham is a crappy place to live.

UNC is like any other fan base where 80% of the noise comes from 10% of the fan base.

Unfortunately, it appears we won’t land Tyson which is a bit of a surprise to me as he may not start at UNC.

 

[berryvol]

Trilly updates today:

- Awaka return is back on the table but a “long shot” right now
- Tyson still an uphill battle vs UNC
- Igor looks promising

 

[Probably_in_Class]

One way I see this working out is if the conferences employ the athletes rather than the universities. Conference could support base salaries while universities do NIL. Conferences cover insurance and benefits. Once under contract you can put restrictions on transfers, especially within a conference. The conference can set base salary caps per university and the universities tell the conference how they want to use their salaries per player with mandatory minimums for guys like walk-ons with bonuses for remaining at a university, graduating, etc.

I think something like capped packages could allow the amatuer model to remain somewhat and not require the complexities of an employee relationship. Let's say the P5 (or really just the SEC and Big10 cause no one else matters) decides that an athlete package in the NIL world should be $100,000 per player (I'm making up a rough number) which universally encompasses tuition, housing, meals, books, a stipend, health insurance, and some other assets as the conferences see fit. That's it. If you want to play NCAA football or basketball (you'd likely have to encompass more but we should at least start at revenue sports), you can sign a 4 year athlete agreement with a school, or you can go play that sport elsewhere outside of NCAA. The NCAA is not at fault for the NFL and NBA not allowing 18 year olds to enter the draft. Let the NFL deal with those lawsuits when guys want more money. The UFL exists now and could be an option as well. The NCAA should be encouraging of other sports leagues forming as it already has MAJOR assets that it just needs to retain and not screw up.

CFB needs a structure that can be followed, and it also needs to be alright with saying, "well then maybe NCAA athletics isn't for you," to athletes that want more. This would still allow athletes to add to their income in ways that should have been legal for decades: signing items, profiting from jersey sales, merchandise, etc. This should allow for the most popular players to receive the most money organically as opposed to an NIL collective trying to guess who will be a big deal.

Long rant, but there are a lot of options, and it's kind of sad to see no one from the conferences or NCAA stepping into a leadership role.