2024 Transfer Portal Thread

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Stoked said:
Blue bloods haven't coped well with the fact that they can't just stock up on 5 stars anymore and win with them. It's more of an even playing field now with the portal. They can't just use their tradition to get the best of the best anymore.
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The portal and throwing cash at high-schoolers is not going to even the playing field--not in basketball and not in football. The big dogs will remain big dogs.
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
This was strangely absent from their commentary.

I can see why. And no doubt, Chapel Hill a cool little town, but when I read smarmy commentary like that, those people just end up making themselves look like narrow-minded dweebs. Knoxville and East Tennessee are fantastic in their own right, and in a lot of ways, UNC's vibe can't compare to an SEC university like Tennessee that has damn near all major sports programs competing for titles. I think a recruit can probably feel that, especially with the setting Tyson experienced at the O&W game right outside of Neyland.
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UNC is a gorgeous campus. And though I love my alma mater, UT’s campus isn’t near as nice as UNC.

However, Knoxville has more to offer than Chapel Hill, imo. Durham is totally different from Chapel Hill, though separated by 8 miles.
 
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ThatVolGuy said:
I made the mistake of checking the UNC boards last night. Tennessee is apparently the worst basketball program on the face of the earth, Knoxville (and East Tennessee in general) is a backwater wasteland that can't compare to their idyllic little hamlet, and if a recruit so much as breathes the air on their campus, they have no choice but to commit on the spot. I used to pull for UNC against Duke, but now I want their basketball program (and perhaps their school) to collapse in on itself like a dying star. What a bunch of self important blowhards.

They've got a great tradition and I respect their success, but I can't imagine being so warped that you refuse to acknowledge that other schools can be compelling in ways yours won't be able to match.
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Yes, UNC see themselves as privileged and a virtuous lot in hoops. Beyond reproach or criticism. Lived in Raleigh for 8 years in the 90's and was exactly the same. Only fans I like in the state are NC State and East Carolina fans. Chapel Hill is great school and beautiful campus, but the groupthink is unbearable.
 
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vol94 said:
I’m from Roanoke, VA and was an avid Tarheel fan as a kid growing up in the 70’s and 80’s. I loved MJ, Perkins, Worthy, and others after that ‘82 championship team.

I lived in Raleigh from 1997-2000. While UNC fans have a sense of entitlement, Duke fans are ten times worst. They look down on everyone even though Durham is a crappy place to live.

UNC is like any other fan base where 80% of the noise comes from 10% of the fan base.

Unfortunately, it appears we won’t land Tyson which is a bit of a surprise to me as he may not start at UNC.
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Careful. The positivity police are watching for anyone not practicing group think.
 
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berryvol said:
Trilly updates today:

- Awaka return is back on the table but a “long shot” right now
- Tyson still an uphill battle vs UNC
- Igor looks promising
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I wonder how Trilly is so much better connected than the local guys. Ramey and Rob Lewis really are like 2-3 days behind him.

Also, portal season has not been kind to bigs and vols so far this season if above holds.
 
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Chaz-Vol said:
I wonder how Trilly is so much better connected than the local guys. Ramey and Rob Lewis really are like 2-3 days behind him.

Also, portal season has not been kind to bigs and vols so far this season if above holds.
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I think Trilly is a bunch of writers all operating under one name. Trilly breaks the news anonymously, which then allows them to write/publish content under their bylines on what Trilly says without pissing off their sources.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
I think something like capped packages could allow the amatuer model to remain somewhat and not require the complexities of an employee relationship. Let's say the P5 (or really just the SEC and Big10 cause no one else matters) decides that an athlete package in the NIL world should be $100,000 per player (I'm making up a rough number) which universally encompasses tuition, housing, meals, books, a stipend, health insurance, and some other assets as the conferences see fit. That's it. If you want to play NCAA football or basketball (you'd likely have to encompass more but we should at least start at revenue sports), you can sign a 4 year athlete agreement with a school, or you can go play that sport elsewhere outside of NCAA. The NCAA is not at fault for the NFL and NBA not allowing 18 year olds to enter the draft. Let the NFL deal with those lawsuits when guys want more money. The UFL exists now and could be an option as well. The NCAA should be encouraging of other sports leagues forming as it already has MAJOR assets that it just needs to retain and not screw up.

CFB needs a structure that can be followed, and it also needs to be alright with saying, "well then maybe NCAA athletics isn't for you," to athletes that want more. This would still allow athletes to add to their income in ways that should have been legal for decades: signing items, profiting from jersey sales, merchandise, etc. This should allow for the most popular players to receive the most money organically as opposed to an NIL collective trying to guess who will be a big deal.

Long rant, but there are a lot of options, and it's kind of sad to see no one from the conferences or NCAA stepping into a leadership role.
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Some good points. The system that is emerging makes a mockery of college and being a student. It's just a cover for professional programs and prospects who are mostly interested in money. It would be nice to find ways to funnel the 5 stars and other money-grubbers directly into a developmental pro leagues. The NBA should be able to draft 18-year-olds: Get rid of the sham 1-and-Done. It's stupid, it's bull$hit. It's completely pointless. Draft 18-year-olds and put them in the G-league and let them prosper and make their way to the NBA or flounder and look for jobs in mall security in 4 years. Because of this legal notion that anybody should be able to market themselves and make money, we're now effectively professionalizing college sports. I mean, we've got guys now routinely taking big money from programs and then a year later they're saying to that program, "It's been real, but I'm leaving for another school and even more money--and then he'll transfer a third time. Playing for 3 schools is now very common. Coaches are pulling their hair out. On the one hand we say nobody's earning power should be contrained, and yet at the same time it's turning college sports into some ludicrous three-ring circus. I don't know what the answer is--but the idea that your program's success now hinges on how many insane boosters you have willing to pony up big money so you can buy a few players for a year, every year, in the hope of winning college games, is absurd.
 
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vol94 said:
UNC is a gorgeous campus. And though I love my alma mater, UT’s campus isn’t near as nice as UNC.

However, Knoxville has more to offer than Chapel Hill, imo. Durham is totally different from Chapel Hill, though separated by 8 miles.
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I'm not even talking about the aesthetics of the campus, honestly. Although, I will say, as somebody who was a UT tour guide from 2007 to 2011, it's crazy (and encouraging) how much our campus has improved in the past 13 years. I guess it's possible that a beautiful campus could play a part in swaying a recruit, but I've seen FAR worse than what we've got to offer.

I dunno. I suppose it's not surprising for fans of a school like UNC to expect every recruit (especially a home state kid) to tilt their way when they're going up against a program that doesn't have as much historical success, but the level of disrespect was ridiculous. I think my experience moving to Knoxville from out of state when I was 17 also informs these feelings. I had a lot of preconceived notions about moving to East Tennessee, and now that this place has been my home for 18 years, I will fiercely defend it against outsiders who like to paint everybody who lives here with a broad brush.
 
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Chaz-Vol said:
I wonder how Trilly is so much better connected than the local guys. Ramey and Rob Lewis really are like 2-3 days behind him.

Also, portal season has not been kind to bigs and vols so far this season if above holds.
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Trilly isn't a single source, he has a discord of people in the know and they all contribute with what they know.

Usually if a few independent users are saying similar things that's when he will put it out.
 
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SoilVol said:
Here's something a lot of Vol fans don't know. UNC fans HATE Rick Barnes. Like, hate-hate. Goes back to his time at Clemson playing a physical brand of basketball that Dean Smith hated. Then all the things Rick had said about blue bloods and the power they and Dean Smith had over the ACC. There was apparently at one point a meeting that ACC folks called with Rick Barnes one summer. And when he showed up, Dean Smith is sitting there in the meeting while the ACC tells Rick to have his boys play softer. That didn't go over well. Culminated in the conflict Rick and Dean got into on the court in Chapel Hill.

I learned all of this from a colleague who is a massive UNC basketball fan and from North Carolina. He gets as much joy out of seeing Rick Barnes lose, wherever he is, as he does Duke. I of course tell him his opinion as a UNC fan doesn't mean much because he got his degree at NC State - but I digress.
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Dean Smith went directly at a Clemson freshman who was on the court, for what he thought was a hard foul on his player, think it was Stackhouse. Smith instigated the entire thing and Barnes went to support his player. Barnes is a competitor and learned his chops in the Big East at Providence and that is just how everyone in the Big East played. He wasn't about to bow down to Dean and kiss his feet. Everyone in the league was tired of Dean getting his way in the ACC. The unspoken shenanigans that kept UNC players eligible went on for years under Dean.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
6'7" 215lbs, 3 years, Guard, played 28 games and started 27, 32.3 mpg, 43.3% FG, 25.6% 3PT, 11.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.3 bpg

That dude was putting in work! He did everything for that team. Would be a good pickup


BUTTTT he's not in the portal, the TE from Mississippi State who went to Colorado with the exact same name is 😂🤣

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TE Seydou Traore re-enters transfer portal after one spring with the Buffaloes

Seydou Traore is on the move again. The former Arkansas State tight end was at Colorado this spring, but he re-entered his name into the transfer portal on Sunday, BuffStampede.com has learned...
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Manhattan freshman wing Seydou Traore is portaling, sources told @TheFieldOf68.

The 6-foot-7, 215-pound Traore averaged 11.8 points and 8.2 rebounds this past season.
 
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Namorto1 said:
Dean Smith went directly at a Clemson freshman who was on the court, for what he thought was a hard foul on his player, think it was Stackhouse. Smith instigated the entire thing and Barnes went to support his player. Barnes is a competitor and learned his chops in the Big East at Providence and that is just how everyone in the Big East played. He wasn't about to bow down to Dean and kiss his feet. Everyone in the league was tired of Dean getting his way in the ACC. The unspoken shenanigans that kept UNC players eligible went on for years under Dean.
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Oh trust me I know. NC State fans actually love Rick Barnes for that. He was the first person to actually stand up vocally and literally physically when he went after Smith.

Also, its bush league anytime and anywhere when an opposing coach talks to or goes after an opposing player. Imo it should be an automatic penalty/technical when it happens. Like when Hurley stepped up and jawed with Edey. Did Edey deserve it? Yes. Doesn't matter. You're the adult in the room.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
If you thought the transfer portal was already bad, it is about to get much, much worse.

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No, it looks like that's just the thoroughly corrupt and biased NCAA (always protecting its pets and assailing its pets' rivals), trying to pretend it matters. The change originated in an anti-trust case, as buried in paragraph 5. The NCAA is just changing its rule because it has no reason to believe that another court order wouldn't follow quickly as desired when this one expires. So, no change.

Except that the article does seem to indicate the NCAA may intend to ignore many cases pertaining to academic benchmarks (UNC fake classes are ok), but go after someone they don't like (which the NCAA's corrupt M.O.). Just as it turned a blind eye to a huge number of obvious tampering cases, and only found it fit to bust Vitello -- out of all of sports, insofar as I recall. And the case involving Vitello was so minor as to be ridiculous: the player had sent his grades but his school deliberately stalled sending the official copy. So he visited before they got there. The Vitello case is interesting because when the NCAA went after Tennessee again most recently (not Ohio State which is openly bragging that it has spend more than $34 million on its roster, for example), the NCAA's plan was to combine that Vitello event and some very trivial infraction involving a basketball assistant; and to bundle them with football to create a LOC case.

The article does accurately report that the NCAA didn't follow its own transfer rule when UNC was involved and later lyingly claimed that it had allowed the exemption based on "new information." What the NCAA really misses is its power to grant and deny exemptions. That is, to create a two-tiered system of the permissible.

Not to change the subject, but you did see the non-penalty "penalty" the NCAA issued per Michigan yesterday? The NCAA stalled for pet Michigan over two seasons to enable them to remain playoff eligible and to keep recruiting rolling, and after they finally won -- based on their special treatment, which made that possible -- and their coaches were safely in the NFL, signing day was over, and the early portal season over, the NCAA "acted." But of course the NCAA is still ignoring three other serious charges at Michigan: illegal use of the university computers in the football office a year ago February (and significant enough to get the FBI involved), illegally stealing signals of conference opponents (about which the NCAA deliberately failed to act in order to clear Michigan for the playoffs), and illegal stealing signals of teams Michigan thought might be playoff opponents (no action taken, and the entire media brouhaha ended when the evidence for that appeared). Reminds a lot of the Kansas basketball case. Now Michigan supposedly has three year probation. But the 3 gross violations I mentioned all occurred after the 2 violations that were "punished." Does that mean those 3 cases are now Michigan probation violations? Or do you think part of the NCAA's continuing protection of pet Michigan included a non disclosed deal behind closed doors that those huge violations wouldn't count?

Anyway, there is a mistake in paragraph six of the artlcle. It is not true that the SEC enforces on a conference level its rule preventing a player from transferring within the conference in the spring. Birmingham plays favorites and permits violations of its own rules when it wants, too. That's how To'o To'o got to Bama.

The real problem is not rules, whatever they may happen to be, but the lack of a just, non-corrupt, and non-biased rule maker and enforcer.

This vote is likely just a set up to generate some more raving and hysterics. Saban's original claims that NIL would destroy parity was laughed out of school. But this replacement "this-can't-go-on" rallying cry seems to be a more seductive propaganda line.
 
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SoilVol said:
Oh trust me I know. NC State fans actually love Rick Barnes for that. He was the first person to actually stand up vocally and literally physically when he went after Smith.

Also, its bush league anytime and anywhere when an opposing coach talks to or goes after an opposing player. Imo it should be an automatic penalty/technical when it happens. Like when Hurley stepped up and jawed with Edey. Did Edey deserve it? Yes. Doesn't matter. You're the adult in the room.
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Or like Oats pushing the Mizzou player this season?
 
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What ever happened to the Big Kid 2025 out of Alabama. Wasn't he making a decision soon?
 
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