2028, who ya got?

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RFK-Jr if they were ever serious about reuniting and healing a fractured party, but won't be suprised in the least to see the nomination go to RuPaul.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I have this feeling Rubio might be in line for a Cabinet position. He gets appointed by Trump, DeSantis is Governor and appoints the replacement. Florida is reliably red and whomever goes up in 26 has a huge advantage.

I still think this is one of the reasons Rand Paul hasn't been brought on since Beshear would name a (D) replacement.
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Certainly a possible scenario with Rubio. Secretary of
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Grand Vol said:
I have this feeling Rubio might be in line for a Cabinet position. He gets appointed by Trump, DeSantis is Governor and appoints the replacement. Florida is reliably red and whomever goes up in 26 has a huge advantage.

I still think this is one of the reasons Rand Paul hasn't been brought on since Beshear would name a (D) replacement.
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Nahhh... no chance Rubio leaves basically a cushy job for life for a 4 year gig unless its a VP or Pres. You have no idea of the worshiped life of a US Senator. Only reason you jump is if you think you could lose and Rubio is not losing in Florida any time soon.
 
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GVF said:
If they are so ignorant of the message that was just delivered to them by trying to trot out Kamala that they come back with that blow hole Whitmer, they should go ahead and pack it in and look to 2032. With what is available to Dems right here, right now, Shapiro may very well be the only candidate they can trot out that may pull in GOP votes accross the aisle. Dems have no other person in the batting cages that can win against any half decent GOP pick.
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Smokey'sHandler said:
If the Trump term is viewed even remotely close to a positive JD Vance will be the man to beat. I have seen a couple of thoughts of Vance/Gabbard which I believe would be a very strong broad based ticket.

The question for the Dems can they actually bring it to themselves to not trot out the craziest they can find in their party. Their dedication to far left candidates are going to continue to get them in trouble in general elections because they are so out of touch with normal Americans.

The dems also need to find someone who is on JD's level which I believe there is not a single person in that party right that could go toe to toe with him in a debate. Shapiro is probably the only one who is even remotely close.

I don't believe we will ever see Kamala Harris again in politics outside of California. The lady is a walking political disaster area who has done nothing but fail upward.

The Dems got exactly what they deserved for the un-democratic coup that they pulled on Biden and supplanting him with incompetence. The problem with the Democratic party is I wouldn't have too much faith that they will learn form this mistake.
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I mean, what would qualify as not “crazy left” for democrats? It’s not as though Harris was some paragon of progressive values before her run in 2020: she shifted left during that primary and was criticized on the left for her record as a prosecutor.

From recent history, it would appear that Republicans and right-leaning media can successfully cast just about anyone with a D next to their name as a “left-wing nut!” It would be interesting to see if they had a harder time with someone like Beshear.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The wheels I assure you are already spinning. Guys like Rubio in the GOP, Whitmer for the Dems, they are all already organizing teams, discussing polling results and how to adapt to them, and thinking about fundraising. Rubio has to be the odds on favorite for the GOP. Who else you got?

And for the Dems, Whitmer seems like a promising front runner since she can motivate women to vote and is from the midwest. Hard to see a nominee that reflects the social values get it, given last night. So does not auger well for Newsome. Who you got?

And remember, Trump is a lame duck even before taking office. He will need to get done whatever he wants to get done in the first 3-4 months because after that people will be jockeying for position within his own party to own whatever is going well, and distance themselves from any trouble spots.
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If the Dems run another female thinking they’ll get a different result then they’re not learning anything. It’s not sexist it’s just facts. I honestly don’t think Dems have anyone that can rally the party, of course there’s a lot of time between now and then.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
I mean, what would qualify as not “crazy left” for democrats? It’s not as though Harris was some paragon of progressive values before her run in 2020: she shifted left during that primary and was criticized on the left for her record as a prosecutor.

From recent history, it would appear that Republicans and right-leaning media can successfully cast just about anyone with a D next to their name as a “left-wing nut!” It would be interesting to see if they had a harder time with someone like Beshear.
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Both Andy Beshear and Josh Shapiro have been universally seen as moderates.

Kamala was seen as the most radically progressive Senator when she was a California Senator. She was also seen as a radically progressive Attorney General as well. Tim Walz has been universally seen as a radically progressive Governor hence him passing laws to have tampons in boys bathrooms and having some of the latest term abortion laws of any state.

It was a very radical ticket and general America isn't going to go for that. If the Dems are going to be successful they are going to have to go with a middle of the road candidate who has a record of governing/proposing/deciding that way vs. the Kamala/Walz way of having to shift their talk to the middle but no record of actually governing/deciding in the middle of the road.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
If the Dems run another female thinking they’ll get a different result then they’re not learning anything. It’s not sexist it’s just facts. I honestly don’t think Dems have anyone that can rally the party, of course there’s a lot of time between now and then.
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I think the right female on either side is immensely electable.
 
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Shapiro or Beshear are my only hopes of the dems attempting to come back towards the center.

Vance or Vivek wouldn't be bad for the reps depending on what the next 4 years look like.
 
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Assuming that Trump is seen to have something of at least a decent presidency (no severe economic trouble, no quagmire wars, etc.), it is really hard to say that Vance wouldn't be the favorite. Similar to 2000 or 1992 (which didn't go well for the incumbent party).

I also think DeSantis will be around for a long time as R Presidential potential.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
If the Dems run another female thinking they’ll get a different result then they’re not learning anything. It’s not sexist it’s just facts. I honestly don’t think Dems have anyone that can rally the party, of course there’s a lot of time between now and then.
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So you don’t think they will run Walz? 😉
 
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McDad said:
I think the right female on either side is immensely electable.
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I really doubt it it would be a thing for the next election but if someone put a gun to my head and said I had to predict the first female POTUS I'd say Gabbard. (Not really an endorsement I just see a real path there)
 
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Republican re-entry Condi Rice

Disregard I didn’t realize she was 69 years of age.
 
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