3 Keys to this Season

#27
#27
iKrager said:
Well Armani Moore shot close to 40% as a senior and that hasn't transitioned that well this far.
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15 shots as a freshman is hardly an adequate sample size to judge whether or not Moore is a good or bad shooter.

I agree with Stoked4Zo though, the shot mechanics between the two players are much different. You can tell Thompson grew up a coach's son with how fluid his shot motion is.
 
#30
#30
Other than Barton and McRae we will still struggle shooting the 3. IMO But I think our overall offensive efficiency will improve. We should have more fastbreak points(hopefully due to solid/aggressive defense) and more paint points with Maymon, Stokes, and Pops getting garbage buckets.

With more depth we might see more 3/4 to full court man to man that also hopefully leads to easy buckets. But as a team, other than Barton and McRae, they don't need to be taking more than 3-5 per game.
 
#31
#31
GoobieVol said:
Other than Barton and McRae we will still struggle shooting the 3. IMO But I think our overall offensive efficiency will improve. We should have more fastbreak points(hopefully due to solid/aggressive defense) and more paint points with Maymon, Stokes, and Pops getting garbage buckets.

With more depth we might see more 3/4 to full court man to man that also hopefully leads to easy buckets. But as a team, other than Barton and McRae, they don't need to be taking more than 3-5 per game.
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I let Hubbs and DT take 3-5 a game too.
 
#32
#32
Stoked4Zo said:
I let Hubbs and DT take 3-5 a game too.
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If they come out in exhibition and show they have the stroke then by all means green light'em.

I guess my point is if we take what the D gives us, then we will have higher percentage opportunity's than we did last year. So the 3 ball won't be as necessary as it may have been in yrs past.
 
#33
#33
SouthernBoiNOLA said:
Good point about them collapsing, but it goes to my point that the other starters must be struggling. Every shot Barton (as probably the 4th or 5th scoring option) takes that isn't a kick out from the post, fastbreak, or against a zone is a shot that Mcrae didn't take/missed, or a missed opportunity to feed the post (#1 priority).

I am not saying that the Vols won't appreciate having a 40% 3 point shooter, but what I am saying is that I just don't think that it is something they will need night in and night out. What I do think they need night in and night out is low turnovers, and getting the ball to the scorers in good positions to score from the point position.
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I think Barton will get a lot of kick-outs from the post this season. That's how his points will come.
 
#34
#34
Hubbs is gonna have the greenlight as soon as he steps on the floor. I've never heard Martin put defense aside, but with Hubbs that's that he's doing. Said he wants him to score and look to score or he'll sit, that there will be growing pains defensively, but he's not worried about it, wants him to score.
 
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#35
#35
MemphisCanes said:
I think Barton will get a lot of kick-outs from the post this season. That's how his points will come.
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Right. He's smart, he'll realize if he feeds the big men they'll look to kick it out as soon as his man collapsed on him.

I think this years team will be much more balanced scoring, you won't have McRae going for 35 a night.
 
#36
#36
bleedingTNorange said:
Right. He's smart, he'll realize if he feeds the big men they'll look to kick it out as soon as his man collapsed on him.

I think this years team will be much more balanced scoring, you won't have McRae going for 35 a night.
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I would bet stokes and maymon get their Assists per game from 3 combined up to around 5 or 6 as long as they are trying to take the best shots available.... especially if Hubbs can shoot decent and therefore having a better opportunity to drive at the basket
It's easier to pass the ball if you have shooters (I wouldn't have given it to McThree last year ever)
 
#37
#37
GoobieVol said:
Other than Barton and McRae we will still struggle shooting the 3. IMO But I think our overall offensive efficiency will improve. We should have more fastbreak points(hopefully due to solid/aggressive defense) and more paint points with Maymon, Stokes, and Pops getting garbage buckets.

With more depth we might see more 3/4 to full court man to man that also hopefully leads to easy buckets. But as a team, other than Barton and McRae, they don't need to be taking more than 3-5 per game.
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Idk about that. Hubbs and Thompson will have opportunities to shoot threes. They are additional options. Idk if AJ can shoot from the three but we also have Reese if he can he set and shoot. Our offense will be inside out I think and it will create wide open 3 opportunities we need to take them. 3-5 seems really low.
 
#39
#39
cncchris33 said:
His official Tennessee bio @ utsports.com.
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Hmmm wonder what their definition of " close to 40%) is? All I could find was max preps which had him at 29%, which seems more believable. The weaknesses noted in his scouting report coming out of high school was his perimeter shot, not something you'd typically see of a 40% shooter.
 
#40
#40
orangeluvr said:
1.Talent
2. Conditioning
3. Game prep
+ The will to win.
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I'd have to say the number one key is Health. We can have everything on anyone's list (talent, prep, chemistry, etc), but if we don't have healthy horses in the race the rest won't mean much. Last year was supposed to be a breakout year, but our main leader goes down and it takes a couple months for everyone to find the new role. Can't happen this year for the team to meet expectations.
 
#43
#43
iKrager said:
Armani Moore Bio - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics


"Shot close to 40 percent from 3-point range during his final prep season."
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Right see my post above...

Not sure what their definition of "close to 40%" is, but according to the stats I found from his HS career he was a 29% three point shooter. That number would coincide much more with the scouting reports on him coming out of high school. I never saw a scouting report for Moore that mentioned his perimeter shot as a strength in his game.
 
#44
#44
bleedingTNorange said:
Hmmm wonder what their definition of " close to 40%) is? All I could find was max preps which had him at 29%, which seems more believable. The weaknesses noted in his scouting report coming out of high school was his perimeter shot, not something you'd typically see of a 40% shooter.
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Those maxpreps stats are from his freshman year in HS.
 
#48
#48
I really don't care how many assists Barton or Thompson has as long as the ball is moving and guys are getting open shots. Open shots haven't occurred in our offense much due to:

-lack of ballhandling by pg and wings
-lack of penetration due to above. How many times did we have a pg penetrate, draw and kick? When Mcrae went off, seems to me he was pulling up in people faces and didn't give a fawk, which is a player I love.
-no inside/out game with Kenny the mummy Hall on the block and walking his man right over to Stokes for an easy double team
-standing around watching Trae dribble, then call a play where we force a pass to the wing to set up a play with 15 seconds left because no leader on the floor knew wtf to do and how to just play.
-no transition game. The trailer 3 while pushing the pace should be a staple with a team with a good pg. It's usually open and in rhythm so it's easier for streaky shooters to knock them down in rhythm.
-passing. We have had to be one of the worst passing teams around. Perimeter and interior. Wing passing to the block has been horrid and not many passes have hit players on the right spot to help them finish. Barton, Thompson, Hubbs, and especially Maymon, are all upgrades on passing ability, even if you only want to include basic passing, much less creative passing that allows 6'7 guys with the wingspan of an albatross to go up and finish.
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#49
#49
Spartacavolus said:
I really don't care how many assists Barton or Thompson has as long as the ball is moving and guys are getting open shots. Open shots haven't occurred in our offense much due to:

-lack of ballhandling by pg and wings
-lack of penetration due to above. How many times did we have a pg penetrate, draw and kick? When Mcrae went off, seems to me he was pulling up in people faces and didn't give a fawk, which is a player I love.
-no inside/out game with Kenny the mummy Hall on the block and walking his man right over to Stokes for an easy double team
-standing around watching Trae dribble, then call a play where we force a pass to the wing to set up a play with 15 seconds left because no leader on the floor knew wtf to do and how to just play.
-no transition game. The trailer 3 while pushing the pace should be a staple with a team with a good pg. It's usually open and in rhythm so it's easier for streaky shooters to knock them down in rhythm.
-passing. We have had to be one of the worst passing teams around. Perimeter and interior. Wing passing to the block has been horrid and not many passes have hit players on the right spot to help them finish. Barton, Thompson, Hubbs, and especially Maymon, are all upgrades on passing ability, even if you only want to include basic passing, much less creative passing that allows 6'7 guys with the wingspan of an albatross to go up and finish.
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I think we've had plenty of open looks. We haven't had enough talent to knock them down has been the main problem.
 
#50
#50
BigZiti09 said:
I think we've had plenty of open looks. We haven't had enough talent to knock them down has been the main problem.
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I've thought so too, at least against most teams.

If Barton and the guards have a good success rate of getting the ball in the post, I won't care what their assist totals are. The biggest problem on offense last year was the entry pass to the post, at least to me. We only had two or three players capable of delivering it, and one was McBee...
 
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