4 Lady Vols earn SEC Awards

Zia Cooke was not a first team performer. Rae got robbed. Cooke has lost basically every game SC has lost for them with her volume shooting.

Howard also wasn’t POY. What a joke. Should have been Dungee or Davis without a doubt.

Rhyne Howard leads her team in points (19.8), rebounds (7.5) and assists (3.7) per game.

No other player in the league leads her team in all 3 categories.
 
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I don't care what race a person is, if I disagree with the award given to them. We are not the same person!! He /she has her views,I have mine..Why would you lump me in that mess????
Upon reading your posts I felt that you were on the same page as AMB. If you were not advocating for AMB’s assertions then you have my sincerest apology for lumping you with him.
 
Lol that’s fair, it just doesn’t make her less deserving of the award.

I don’t find her game that impressive. She has big numbers because she has to pick up the slack for her teammates. She leads them in rebounds because none of their bigs go hard to the glass and she leads them in assists because she draws 98% of the defensive energy opening up her teammates.

Like Kim Mulkey at Baylor was saying about Smith. Rennia’s number could have been even better if we needed them to be. We didn’t need her to be our assist leader or leading scorer though. She has great teammates and played within the system. POY awards aren’t just about stats. A lot of it is but it also comes down to who’s team wins and how they do it. Rennia’s team has been much better than Howard’s this season IMO and I believe Rennia deserved the recognition. Also think Rennia comports herself in a much more professional manner and doesn’t make immature comments.

Like Whyne (I’m changing her name as of now) saying her would NEVER lose to Tennessee. A) poor sportsmanship B) clearly not true. The SEC rewarding her after all the mess she’s talked is just rewarding bad behavior. She’s not good enough to be talking all that stuff. Period.
 
Identity politics rears it's ugly head. There was no way that they were going to give this award to a man, and with the attention they were giving to the # of black female coaches in the league, it was obvious that the winner was coming from that pool. It would have been Dawn, but since she underachieved, then Joni had the strongest case amongst that group.

I disagree. I’m not sure anyone saw Georgia being as consistently tough this year as they have been. They haven’t been basement dwellers but they darn sure weren’t in the conversation preseason for a top 16 seed in the tourney. Could’ve also gone to Kellie but I think both of GA’s wins over us put Joni over the top.
 
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Upon reading your posts I felt that you were on the same page as AMB. If you were not advocating for AMB’s assertions then you have my sincerest apology for lumping you with him.
Don't apologize to me, apologize to Kellie and blair for saying they are out worked!!!
 
Mods...before these comments about Joni Taylor begin going in a different direction... you may want to move them.

We should be celebrating accomplishments and not bringing politics(with racial undertones) into it to try and demean the accomplishments of another. Kellie and UT can’t win every award unfortunately. But it’s identity politics for a black woman to win CCOY? One who’s team had a pretty good season considering the last few years haven’t been “amazing”.

I’d also like to know if moving them could be done prior to people responding/calling out the crap rather than the movements happening because someone addressed the bull.
 
These awards usually seem lazily decided. Dumb sh*t counts, like they were never going to give 2 first team spots to the LVs. So Rae gets second team even if she deserved first. They almost always give POY based on scoring average so Re never had a chance bc she was so unselfish about Rae's touches.

I believe Boston was better overall this season than Key, but Key is closing in on her and probably has more potential upside. If Key becomes consistent plus develops any hops whatsoever she'll be phenomenal. Let it Be.

Kinda surprised the players are being so openly scornful, just hope they turn it into good motivation.

Usually, due to voter laziness, you have to work to get them to give COY to anyone EXCEPT whoever won the title. And that's even when that coach was expected to win it and not totally retooling as Blair was. Throw in the sentimental angle that he's 75 and I think anyone would agree Blair not winning COY is very unusual.

If it was Identity politics, I certainly understand the good intent. But in a case this obvious, I wonder if it's a little embarrassing for the coach given the award. Sure don't want to insult anyone with tokenism. It's such a hard social tight rope trying to figure out when special considerations for minorities go from beneficial to harmful. Of course we want to err on the side of lifting everyone up but that requires more thought and patience than we're usually willing to give.

I don't see how any coach of any description has to work twice as hard as another to win it though. Could be argued its harder for some to get the job, but once someone is head coach it all seems pretty equal. In fact, you could see Gary Blair being at a big ole recruiting disadvantage to a younger woman of color.
 
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Mods...before these comments about Joni Taylor begin going in a different direction... you may want to move them.

We should be celebrating accomplishments and not bringing politics(with racial undertones) into it to try and demean the accomplishments of another. Kellie and UT can’t win every award unfortunately. But it’s identity politics for a black woman to win CCOY? One who’s team had a pretty good season considering the last few years haven’t been “amazing”.

I’d also like to know if moving them could be done prior to people responding/calling out the crap rather than the movements happening because someone addressed the bull.
All he did was state his opinion in a professional manor. What's wrong with that???
 
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All he did was state his opinion in a professional manor. What's wrong with that???

My comments have been moved for less.. he’s implying that because she’s black that’s the reason she got this award. 🙄

Not because she actually worked with her team and got them to play above the level they were expected. Now sure how any more blatant that can be. And since the identity politics is such a huge talking point for republicans.. it sounds about right to move that conversation.
 
These awards usually seem lazily decided. Dumb sh*t counts, like they were never going to give 2 first team spots to the LVs. So Rae gets second team even if she deserved first. They almost always give POY based on scoring average so Re never had a chance bc she was so unselfish about Rae's touches.

I believe Boston was better overall this season than Key, but Key is closing in on her and probably has more potential upside. If Key becomes consistent plus develops any hops whatsoever she'll be phenomenal. Let it Be.

Kinda surprised the players are being so openly scornful, just hope they turn it into good motivation.

Usually, due to voter laziness, you have to work to get them to give COY to anyone EXCEPT whoever won the title. And that's even when that coach was expected to win it and not totally retooling as Blair was. Throw in the sentimental angle that he's 75 and I think anyone would agree Blair not winning COY is very unusual.

If it was Identity politics, I certainly understand the good intent. But in a case this obvious, I wonder if it's a little embarrassing for the coach given the award. Sure don't want to insult anyone with tokenism. It's such a hard social tight rope trying to figure out when special considerations for minorities go from beneficial to harmful. Of course we want to err on the side of lifting everyone up but that requires more thought and patience than we're usually willing to give.

I don't see how any coach of any description has to work twice as hard as another to win it though. Could be argued its harder for some to get the job, but once someone is head coach it all seems pretty equal. In fact, you could see Gary Blair being at a big ole recruiting disadvantage to a younger woman of color.
Very well said!!! Except Key and hops. Boston can't jump over a phone book!
 
My comments have been moved for less.. he’s implying that because she’s black that’s the reason she got this award. 🙄

Not because she actually worked with her team and got them to play above the level they were expected. Now sure how any more blatant that can be. And since the identity politics is such a huge talking point for republicans.. it sounds about right to move that conversation.
If you don't agree,just keep scrolling! He had good points and not so good points.
 
Really ..by saying she didn't work any harder than Kellie or Blair??? That is a reply to someone who says she did. I politely disagreed...

I actually think that comment was rooted in the past in general not just Joni Taylor and the trials of African American women throughout history and the struggle they have had to be on an even playing field with their counterparts...

Again, not a discussion for this forum but i can assure you it’s not about Kellie or Gary not having to work hard ...
 
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I actually think that comment was rooted in the past in general not just Joni Taylor and the trials of African American women throughout history and the struggle they have had to be on an even playing field with their counterparts...

Again, not a discussion for this forum but i can assure you it’s not about Kellie or Gary not having to work hard ...
However,you are discussing it...
 
Well she told a player to get that $#!+ outta here when she was blocking the shot so i’m sure she would have kind words for you 🤣
I wouldn't be dumb enough to take the ball to the basket with her defending it.

And I'm sure she would be very polite to a 68 year old person. She seems to have been brought up right.
 
I actually think that comment was rooted in the past in general not just Joni Taylor and the trials of African American women throughout history and the struggle they have had to be on an even playing field with their counterparts...

Again, not a discussion for this forum but i can assure you it’s not about Kellie or Gary not having to work hard ...
She clearly stated she works harder than blair or Kellie..
 
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Don't apologize to me, apologize to Kellie and blair for saying they are out worked!!!
I did not say they were out worked. And I apologized to you because you said I had misconstrued your comment and I took you at your word.
 
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