40-41 year old Millenials

#27
#27
happy-go_vol said:
You're making the drug war claim from an historical perspective. Which is wrong, you have to look at it from being in the 80s, at the present time. America was a much more moral country and people were worried about the dangers of drugs. So it made sense at the time. I bet there are alot of families today who are grieving and wished we did more to fight drugs
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What makes you say that?
 
#28
#28
Orangeslice13 said:
Racist drove me from the democrats. The irony now of the racist try to play the republicans as the racist
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Have to say that was part of my self reflection. The family on MLK back in the 70's-now isn't better off and the view outside the window has not changed. The liberal plantation is still ran by those who only show up in election cycles. Decades of promises for the vote but nothing changes.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Apparently never went to an Allman Bros or Jimmy Buffett concert in 1979. My parents did and I’ve seen the pictures. If that’s what a more moral country looks like, then sign me up.
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Who knows if people were actually generally more moral, but I would definitely say it was a society that was more outwardly moral.
 
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Like others, I would like to see a conservative (truly conservative...not partially conservative or conservative in rhetoric) president. I'm not a millennial and my first memory of a president is Carter.

I haven't seen a conservative president. I have seen presidents who talk a good game and ones who have some conservative positions.
 
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McDad said:
Like others, I would like to see a conservative (truly conservative...not partially conservative or conservative in rhetoric) president. I'm not a millennial and my first memory of a president is Carter.

I haven't seen a conservative president. I have seen presidents who talk a good game and ones who have some conservative positions.
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I barely remember Ford, I remember the disaster Carter was and of course the lifting of spirits with Regan. Regan wasn't a fiscal conservative nor was he a defender of the 2A, his biggest asset was being a motivator.
 
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hog88 said:
I barely remember Ford, I remember the disaster Carter was and of course the lifting of spirits with Regan. Regan wasn't a fiscal conservative nor was he a defender of the 2A, his biggest asset was being a motivator.
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I watched that doc about the Americas Cup on Netflix, and they showed about 20 seconds of a Reagan speech, and he made you feel something in those 20 seconds. Probably the most gifted speaker DC has seen in my lifetime?
 
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hog88 said:
I barely remember Ford, I remember the disaster Carter was and of course the lifting of spirits with Regan. Regan wasn't a fiscal conservative nor was he a defender of the 2A, his biggest asset was being a motivator.
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I used to believe the propaganda that Reagan really was a conservative and it was those 'wascally democwats' who simply outmaneuvered him and kept spending. While there may some truth to that perspective, if he had wanted to curtail the spending, he had mechanisms to cut spending.
 
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McDad said:
I used to believe the propaganda that Reagan really was a conservative and it was those 'wascally democwats' who simply outmaneuvered him and kept spending. While there may some truth to that perspective, if he had wanted to curtail the spending, he had mechanisms to cut spending.
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He could have cut spending had he really wanted to. Our military was in shambles at the time so there needed to be some spending there but Star Wars was boondoggle.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Uhhh...it diesn't make sense if you are a small government conservative who believes in personal freedom, regardless of the decade. Principles shouldn't change just because fears do. Otherwise we can justify everything under the sun.
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Conservatives should be for the legalization of drugs? If someone is high on drugs or drunk on alcohol there is a chance that they could harm others. There is a reason why drunk driving is illegal. There is also a reason why many companies drug test any possible future employees.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Conservatives should be for the legalization of drugs? If someone is high on drugs or drunk on alcohol there is a chance that they could harm others. There is a reason why drunk driving is illegal. There is also a reason why many companies drug test any possible future employees.
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A true conservative supports individual freedoms so yeah they should be for legalizing drugs and ending the WODs.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Conservatives should be for the legalization of drugs? If someone is high on drugs or drunk on alcohol there is a chance that they could harm others. There is a reason why drunk driving is illegal. There is also a reason why many companies drug test any possible future employees.
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There is a difference between being on drugs which is a victimless crime and harming someone while under the influence which is not a victim less crime. If we are going to ban something because of the potential to harm someone then we should go back to Prohibition.
 
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hog88 said:
A true conservative supports individual freedoms so yeah they should be for legalizing drugs and ending the WODs.
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True conservatives support lifting people up. Encouraging people to be on drugs does not lift them up. Drugs bring people down.
 
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DonjoVol said:
True conservatives support lifting people up. Encouraging people to be on drugs does not lift them up. Drugs bring people down.
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Ever been to. Phish show? Do those people look down to you? Also true conservatives don’t support lifting people up or keeping them down. We support letting grown adults make grown adult decisions.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Conservatives should be for the legalization of drugs? If someone is high on drugs or drunk on alcohol there is a chance that they could harm others. There is a reason why drunk driving is illegal. There is also a reason why many companies drug test any possible future employees.
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DonjoVol said:
True conservatives support lifting people up. Encouraging people to be on drugs does not lift them up. Drugs bring people down.
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You are not making any sort of cogent point. You're flailing. Think beyond the emotion and try again.
 
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hog88 said:
Who the hell is encouraging people to be on drugs?
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Legalizing drugs says to people that it's okay. Therefore it is a form of encouragement. People being addicted to drugs or doing them on a regular recreational basis creates lack of motivation. Lack of motivation leads to laziness. Laziness leads to people not wanting to work.

We need to be encouraging people to be responsible and to contribute to society in good ways.

What else are you okay with legalizing?
 
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#47
sonofUT62 said:
By 1977, the results of the Kinsey report had been out for 30 years. America was full of freaky people and those that were paying attention knew better lol.
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IMO people had a better sense of humor, was more live and let live and generally less uptight back then. Overall much less Karenish.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Legalizing drugs says to people that it's okay. Therefore it is a form of encouragement. People being addicted to drugs or doing them on a regular recreational basis creates lack of motivation. Lack of motivation leads to laziness. Laziness leads to people not wanting to work.

We need to be encouraging people to be responsible and to contribute to society in good ways.

What else are you okay with legalizing?
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Oh boy.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Legalizing drugs says to people that it's okay. Therefore it is a form of encouragement. People being addicted to drugs or doing them on a regular recreational basis creates lack of motivation. Lack of motivation leads to laziness. Laziness leads to people not wanting to work.

We need to be encouraging people to be responsible and to contribute to society in good ways.

What else are you okay with legalizing?
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If we legalized drugs I would bet usage wouldn't increase much if any. Anyone wanting to do drugs now can get them.

And since you asked, I'm also for legalizing prostitution, casino gambling (where it's currently illegal), manufacture of homemade hard spirits, drunk driving (but making drunk crashing a serious offense), making adulthood a single age, and there are others.
 
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