50 Killed 200+ Injured in Vegas Music Festival Shooting

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volinbham said:
I have no idea what happened.

Just would like to hear what happened in the 6 minutes between the SG getting shot and the shooter opening up on the concert.

Was it radio'd in?
If yes, what did dispatch do?
Was there any order to wait for the police to arrive?

Not sure anything could have been done but from what I've heard Casino security isn't like rent-a-cop; they are like a small police force inside the facility.
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Well, now they’re saying a building maintenance man was with the security guard when he was shot. This is starting to sound like a coverup.
 
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davethevol said:
Well, now they’re saying a building maintenance man was with the security guard when he was shot. This is starting to sound like a coverup.
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I'm not going down the cover up path.

Just would be interested in what happened in that time frame and if bad decisions were made.
 
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volinbham said:
I'm not going down the cover up path.

Just would be interested in what happened in that time frame and if bad decisions were made.
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It should all be on video, I’m sure they’ll release the casino security footage soon enough. Still surprised the MSM isn’t clamoring for this especially now that we have conflicting timelines.
 
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hog88 said:
It should all be on video, I’m sure they’ll release the casino security footage soon enough. Still surprised the MSM isn’t clamoring for this especially now that we have conflicting timelines.
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Yeah, don't hold your breath. I got $100 that says the cameras were somehow disabled or were "scheduled for maintenance" or some such bull. We'll never know the true story.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Yeah, don't hold your breath. I got $100 that says the cameras were somehow disabled or were "scheduled for maintenance" or some such bull. We'll never know the true story.
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I’ve been sincerely curious as to why we haven’t seen any video yet.
 
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If a security guard was shot outside of Paddock's room 6 minutes before he opened fire on the crowd, is it normal for the police/SWAT team to take more than an hour to get inside the room? I think cops were on the floor for a period of time prior to the room door being breached, but not sure for how long. I guess the delay was getting SWAT organized and on-scene. That obviously takes some time--how long, on average, I do not know. And I suppose that since Paddock only fired for some 9/11 minutes or whatever it was, he had long since stopped shooting and was dead while police were outside on the 32nd floor waiting for SWAT, so perhaps there wasn't the urgency to get inside that there would have been had he kept on shooting for a longer period of time.

I do remember that it took police and SWAT FOREVER to get inside Columbine high school after that mass shooting--3 hours and 15/16 minutes--which was absurd, and at least one teacher who could have been saved bled to death while the police were ever so slowly getting it together.
 
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it was an hour whatever until the kicked down the door. First priority should have been to make sure no civilians anywhere close when that door got kicked in. If he was still firing you could make an argument for there to be a rush to get to him. but he stopped so you make sure people are out of danger before you open up another can of worms.
 
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golfballs said:
New disclosure shows a casino guard alerted hotel to gunman before Vegas massacre began. So why did it take so long to stop him? - LA Times
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Sounds like the cops got there shortly after the shooting stopped.

Roberts said the hotel dispatched its own armed security team to the 32nd floor, which arrived “right around the same time” as Las Vegas police, who officials have said arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. But the gunman had already fired his final shots out his hotel window at 10:15 p.m.
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so around 15 minutes from the concert shooting started, plus a little bit for the security guard.

with the guard getting shot first almost makes you wonder if he had to start shooting earlier than he would have liked. maybe his accomplice was MIA, guard shows up and he has to go through with it by himself. might also explain why he was set up for a siege but offed himself, he was expecting help but didn't have it.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
We are for eliminating them before birth, but you fundamentalist crazies keep proposing limits on abortions.
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Well I am not a fundamentalist crazy. I couldn't care less about it. Kill all the babies you want. I am actually all for post birth abortions as well. I think we could go as far as age 75?
 
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AM64 said:
Isn't the deal about no cameras in hallways all about "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas"?
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I would think so, but it does poke some holes in people thinking it would be easy to figure out what is going on in the hallway.
 
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I think we need to hear from the head of hotel security - when did they get the call that somebody was blasting the hall with fire and what was the response. Did they think the incident was contained and they had time to mount the perfect assault?

I'm sure they had no idea the guy was about to open fire on the concert crowd so maybe they thought they had some time to get it right. In hindsight, delaying the response meant the shooter was able to execute the plan.
 
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Danl said:
Why do you make that connection?
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Because 6 minutes of silence means he was doing something other than shooting. He was already set up with his cameras and rifles. Firing through the door and getting the guard away from the area seems like a diversion. He would have been able to see on his camera that the guard was no longer at the door. It’s like he was making sure the hallway was clear for a bit.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Well I am not a fundamentalist crazy. I couldn't care less about it. Kill all the babies you want. I am actually all for post birth abortions as well. I think we could go as far as age 75?
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Yep, as long as they have the libby gene - an ounce of prevention ...
 
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davethevol said:
Because 6 minutes of silence means he was doing something other than shooting. He was already set up with his cameras and rifles.

How do you know that he had already set up his rifles at that point? Maybe he spent those six minutes setting up or finishing the set up of his rifles.


Firing through the door and getting the guard away from the area seems like a diversion. He would have been able to see on his camera that the guard was no longer at the door. It’s like he was making sure the hallway was clear for a bit.
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Having to cause such a diversion just to get someone out of the room at that point seems weird. If someone was in the room and wasn't supposed to be there during the big event, why didn't they leave before? And how could they have left and not been seen?

What evidence is there available to put another person in the room?
 
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LouderVol said:
I would think so, but it does poke some holes in people thinking it would be easy to figure out what is going on in the hallway.
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Yeah, life isn't always like the cop shows where there's always a camera to catch the guy in the act. It's funny how Big Brother has become acceptable in a country that reviled the thought not so long ago.
 
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davethevol said:
Because 6 minutes of silence means he was doing something other than shooting. He was already set up with his cameras and rifles. Firing through the door and getting the guard away from the area seems like a diversion. He would have been able to see on his camera that the guard was no longer at the door. It’s like he was making sure the hallway was clear for a bit.
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Rumor here is he had called one of those "lady of the evening" cards they hand out on the strip.
 
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