7 states thinking of lowering drinking age

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rasputin is right. There's never a set age as to when someone is mature enough, it's just a live and learn type thing. It's the same issue with people wanting to raise the legal driving age. I don't drink, don't think I would have if it would have been legal at 18, but I don't think there is a big enough difference in how an 18 yr old would handle the decision to a 21. If anything, most kids get a little wilder when they go off to college.
 
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volfanbill said:
rasputin is right. There's never a set age as to when someone is mature enough, it's just a live and learn type thing. It's the same issue with people wanting to raise the legal driving age. I don't drink, don't think I would have if it would have been legal at 18, but I don't think there is a big enough difference in how an 18 yr old would handle the decision to a 21. If anything, most kids get a little wilder when they go off to college.
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Judging from my high school experience and making a mass generalization that mine was not all that unique, I would have to think that a higher drinking age actually puts more panicked and drunk drivers on the road.

Anyone else care to explain the procedure following the following words, heard at a house party, "Cops!!!"
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
The kids are drinkin', tax em' and take their money!
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It might work out better for the government to tax the kids. First time I bought beer the guy charged me 24 dollars for 24 beers AND THEN made me give him one. I got better at this operation immediately following this first transaction.
 
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therealUT said:
Judging from my high school experience and making a mass generalization that mine was not all that unique, I would have to think that a higher drinking age actually puts more panicked and drunk drivers on the road.

Anyone else care to explain the procedure following the following words, heard at a house party, "Cops!!!"
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i would agree with that. I can only recall a handful of people at my high school who didn't drink. I can only recall one of those people who would go to the parties and hang out with the ones that did drink. That person would be myself. I would make sure my friend's made it into my truck (or one of their vehicles with me driving) and didn't worry about the others if parents or the two times the cops were supposedly on their way. I know most got the heck out of dodge even quicker than I did.
 
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volfanbill said:
rasputin is right. There's never a set age as to when someone is mature enough, it's just a live and learn type thing. It's the same issue with people wanting to raise the legal driving age. I don't drink, don't think I would have if it would have been legal at 18, but I don't think there is a big enough difference in how an 18 yr old would handle the decision to a 21. If anything, most kids get a little wilder when they go off to college.
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So would you go for no drinking age with that philosophy?? I do agree that it takes people making mistakes to understand the decisions they have made, but I just don't trust an 18 year old to make that decision at that point in their young adult lives. At least with a 21 year old you have some maturity that has developed and most learn quicker than someone who is younger.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So would you go for no drinking age with that philosophy?? I do agree that it takes people making mistakes to understand the decisions they have made, but I just don't trust an 18 year old to make that decision at that point in their young adult lives. At least with a 21 year old you have some maturity that has developed and most learn quicker than someone who is younger.
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Don't worry about it GH, you are only responsible for you and your daughter.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So would you go for no drinking age with that philosophy?? I do agree that it takes people making mistakes to understand the decisions they have made, but I just don't trust an 18 year old to make that decision at that point in their young adult lives. At least with a 21 year old you have some maturity that has developed and most learn quicker than someone who is younger.
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no, i still like the idea of being 18. able to vote, able to be tried as an adult,able to drink, aka,you are a full adult. But there is not a big enough difference between being 18 and 21. I still maintain i think a lot of kids lose some maturity between being 18 and 21. once they get away from their parents shadow too many kids go nuts. Europe is a prime example that fewer laws help eliminate many of the problems our society is facing.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So would you go for no drinking age with that philosophy?? I do agree that it takes people making mistakes to understand the decisions they have made, but I just don't trust an 18 year old to make that decision at that point in their young adult lives. At least with a 21 year old you have some maturity that has developed and most learn quicker than someone who is younger.
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I am all for an 18 year old independent drinking age. A 16 year old, must be in a household with the legal guardian of at least one of the other 16-17 year olds present, and a 15 and under drinking allowed only in the presence of their legal guardian.
 
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I'm in favor of legalizing some drugs (marijuana), so lowering the drinking age is ok with me. However, it's hard not to believe this won't result in more accidents and deaths from people driving drunk. People 16-21 are involved in more accidents then any other age group except maybe seniors.
 
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oklavol said:
I'm in favor of legalizing some drugs (marijuana), so lowering the drinking age is ok with me. However, it's hard not to believe this won't result in more accidents and deaths from people driving drunk. People 16-21 are involved in more accidents then any other age group except maybe seniors.
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Because they are new at driving. It's not because they are too immature to be driving. If you made me wait until i was 21 to drive, i'd have been just as bad at 21 as I was at 16
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You sure are taking discussions awful personal AV. What the heck is the deal??
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Actually I am not. I merely repeated a statement you made earlier today. It was tongue in cheek, simply pointing out that you need only feel responsible for you and your family, something you alluded to earlier. Nothin personal meant by it.
 
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volfanbill said:
Because they are new at driving. It's not because they are too immature to be driving. If you made me wait until i was 21 to drive, i'd have been just as bad at 21 as I was at 16
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I remember what it was like just a little over 10 years ago to be 16 and yes I was a very immature driver. If you can point out one 16 year old that is a mature driver, I would be astonished.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I remember what it was like just a little over 10 years ago to be 16 and yes I was a very immature driver. If you can point out one 16 year old that is a mature driver, I would be astonished.
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If you can point out anyone who is a mature anything while they are a novice, I would be astonished.
 
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allvol123 said:
Actually I am not. I merely repeated a statement you made earlier today. It was tongue in cheek, simply pointing out that you need only feel responsible for you and your family, something you alluded to earlier. Nothin personal meant by it.
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What does it even have to do with this conversation?? We were discussing how you are responsible for someone else's words in the past even if they are your friend, not 18 year olds drinking and driving. You are taking something way out of context.
 
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Not taking anything out of context. The conversation here straddles into people's opinions of what the drinking age should be. I don't care what it is...I will be responsible for the drinking age of my kids...I don't need laws to tell me when they can or cannot drink..thus the reference back to your line.
 
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therealUT said:
If you can point out anyone who is a mature anything while they are a novice, I would be astonished.
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That's kinda my point. Immature 18 year olds that are still in high school who just got their "real" license and can get booze is a recipe for disaster. Plus, how many of them would actually buy it for the underclassmen in school??
 
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allvol123 said:
Not taking anything out of context. The conversation here straddles into people's opinions of what the drinking age should be. I don't care what it is...I will be responsible for the drinking age of my kids...I don't need laws to tell me when they can or cannot drink..thus the reference back to your line.
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:crazy:
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
That's kinda my point. Immature 18 year olds that are still in high school who just got their "real" license and can get booze is a recipe for disaster. Plus, how many of them would actually buy it for the underclassmen in school??
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how many college kids buy it for high schoolers now? For that matter, how many high schoolers can just get it on their own?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
That's kinda my point. Immature 18 year olds that are still in high school who just got their "real" license and can get booze is a recipe for disaster. Plus, how many of them would actually buy it for the underclassmen in school??
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So, I assume that you believe in some kind of graduated license program for driving. Apparently, in order that by the time these kids drive independently, they are better prepared. Yet, not a single person in America seems to want kids to get accustomed to alcohol as they grow up? Sound thinking...
 
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volfanbill said:
how many college kids buy it for high schoolers now? For that matter, how many high schoolers can just get it on their own?
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Not a lot since the ID laws went into effect. As far as college kids getting it for HS, that's still an issue but it's not the issue it was 20 years ago. I do agree with you guys that 17 and 18 year olds are going to drink, that's inevitable, but the main issue I have is that when you turn 18 you get that "I am unstoppable" feeling and think you can do anything. That's the biggest issue I have is them not knowing how to control themselves.
 
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