7 states thinking of lowering drinking age

#76
#76
StunnA N' Orange said:
Not one of them cost me a single dime. If given the right resources, they're relatively easy to create.
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So you have 17-20 year old friends in Brentwood that have the money to buy the equipment or your banging someone at the DMV, either way doesn't make it right that your doing it. I don't know what the law is in Tennessee exactly, but in some states its a felony to get caught with a Fake ID. I guess to me the risk out weighs the reward.
 
#77
#77
g8terh8ter_eric said:
So you have 17-20 year old friends in Brentwood that have the money to buy the equipment or your banging someone at the DMV, either way doesn't make it right that your doing it. I don't know what the law is in Tennessee exactly, but in some states its a felony to get caught with a Fake ID. I guess to me the risk out weighs the reward.
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There's hardly any money involved. A fat kid computer nerd at my high school made them for nearly everyone that wanted one.

Fake ID's are unnecessary anyways. I never had one.

I could go to bars all over Nashville getting freakin hammered when I was 17. It still hasn't changed.
 
#78
#78
Bottom line in Nashville is once you get in everyone assumes you are old enough to be drinking. I did a LOT of this myself. As long as you are mature enough to not act like an idiot people don't take notice.
 
#79
#79
g8terh8ter_eric said:
So you have 17-20 year old friends in Brentwood that have the money to buy the equipment or your banging someone at the DMV, either way doesn't make it right that your doing it. I don't know what the law is in Tennessee exactly, but in some states its a felony to get caught with a Fake ID. I guess to me the risk out weighs the reward.
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do you seriously think fake ID's are that difficult to make or find?
 
#81
#81
g8terh8ter_eric said:
No PJ, I know they are readily available to those who pursue them. Whoever wants to spend the money to get or make them, go for it. :good!:
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...or whoever has an older brother, cousin, friend, acquaintance, etc...

Most fake IDs are simply someone else's license. Then that person goes to the DMV, pays $10, says they lost their license, and gets a new one.

It is an incredibly simple process.
 
#82
#82
g8terh8ter_eric said:
So you have 17-20 year old friends in Brentwood that have the money to buy the equipment or your banging someone at the DMV, either way doesn't make it right that your doing it. I don't know what the law is in Tennessee exactly, but in some states its a felony to get caught with a Fake ID. I guess to me the risk out weighs the reward.
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It's only a felony if it is someone else's ID
 
#85
#85
They might as well. I'm 26, and started drinking at the age of 16.
 
#88
#88
justingroves said:
So eric you never once drank until you were of legal age?
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Yes, Justin I drank my first drink at the age of 15. I also remember at the age of 18 how damn immature I was and I know that most 18 year olds are just as immature as I was. The number doesn't bother me as much as immaturity does. Like I have stated before in other replies in this thread, every 18 year old won't be completely stupid with lowering the drinking age but I guarantee you letting the average high school senior have legal access to alcohol is a recipe for disaster.
 
#89
#89
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Yes, Justin I drank my first drink at the age of 15. I also remember at the age of 18 how damn immature I was and I know that most 18 year olds are just as immature as I was. The number doesn't bother me as much as immaturity does. Like I have stated before in other replies in this thread, every 18 year old won't be completely stupid with lowering the drinking age but I guarantee you letting the average high school senior have legal access to alcohol is a recipe for disaster.
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Would you rather have 18-20 year olds drinking at house parties or drinking in bars?
 
#90
#90
Having raised 3 boys I'd say "Hell No'! Don't encourage them. That is all.
 
#91
#91
Y'all know there is a point in letting your kids experiment in front of you or giving them freedom to experiment in the house to take away some of the glamour of using and or drinking.

I was raised in a very dogmatic, religious environment, I remember my grandmother smashing a couple bottles of wine at our house in our garage. Kind of violent I know but she's a yankee and they just yell, not hit. Anyway, I could not wait to taste wine for that very reason.
 
#92
#92
g8terh8ter_eric said:
No PJ, I know they are readily available to those who pursue them. Whoever wants to spend the money to get or make them, go for it. :good!:
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Fake IDs are readily available, yet you act like 1/300 high-schoolers having an ID is probably an overestimate. Do you think that only 1/300 high-schoolers desire access to alcohol?
 
#93
#93
kptvol said:
Fake IDs are readily available, yet you act like 1/300 high-schoolers having an ID is probably an overestimate. Do you think that only 1/300 high-schoolers desire access to alcohol?
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No, I'm sure it's more like 1 in 5, and giving them access earlier would cause that estimate to got to around 1 in 3, IMO.
 
#94
#94
therealUT said:
Drinking and driving is a largely overblown "problem." MADD has even resorted to exaggerating drunk driving fatality statistics by now highlighting "alcohol related deaths" instead of deaths caused by an intoxicated driver who is at fault in the accident.

If there is one person in a car involved in an accident who has above a .01 BAC, MADD considers the accident "alcohol related."

Is everyone aware that the founder of MADD is now one of its most outspoken critics?
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MADD is an extortion racket that would make Paul Castellano jealous. They hang legislators out to dry with "So you want people to die in alcohol related accidents?!" hissies, and therefore pass more unreasonable laws which serve only to harass the population.

Naturally, it is a very bad decision to drive drunk, but, in a .08 BAC state, you are going to be cuffed and stuffed if you have 2 beers after work and head on home. More people are being arrested, which makes MADD happy, regardless of the fact that the increase is mostly people who were probably good to go behind the wheel.
 
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