9/11 Conspiracy Thread

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Why is it more likely that they are wrong? Why is it that the ones who agree with the governements assesments are more correct? There have been scientists from very reputable universities like MIT that have called the NIST report and the governements official theory about what happened on 9/11 into questions. So why are people like those wrong? What if everything we have been told about 9/11 is a lie? The governement has lied to us many times in the past. Can you honestly say with any certainty that they are not lying about 9/11?
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Link to a scientist from MIT?

And further, the vast majority of experts agree with the NIST explanation. Why should a miniscule subset of experts be trusted over the overwhelming majority?

And yes, it is possible that the government is lying, in some way shape or form about 9/11. Heck, it's altogether likely that they are lying about at least something. But that is a far cry from the government being complicit in 9/11.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm fairly positive I've added more to this thread than you have.

And you still won't answer the tough questions.
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I've answered them with videos and the sheep won't watch....

You add nothing but turmoil....like in every thread...
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Why is it more likely that they are wrong? Why is it that the ones who agree with the governements assesments are more correct? There have been scientists from very reputable universities like MIT that have called the NIST report and the governements official theory about what happened on 9/11 into questions. So why are people like those wrong? What if everything we have been told about 9/11 is a lie? The governement has lied to us many times in the past. Can you honestly say with any certainty that they are not lying about 9/11?
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They can't think on their own or outside the box. If CNN says so, it's the gospel.....they saw it on tv..
 
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Pacer92 said:
I've answered them with videos and the sheep won't watch....

You add nothing but turmoil....like in every thread...
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You keep posting videos whose fallacious arguments you then parrot. I've laid several of them out and all you do is post another video with another fallacious argument. You aren't actually responding to anything.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
And you heard it from Alex Jones, so it must be true huh?
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Find any post I've quoted Alex Jones...

Watch the videos that have the ONLY visual evidence...

No plane parts anywhere. No bodies. Aircraft engines that didnt come from a 767.

BUT, they found passports of alleged hijackers that allegedly flew these planes....all in good and legible conditiin, no less.

C'mon guys...
 
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Pacer92 said:
Find any post I've quoted Alex Jones...

Watch the videos that have the ONLY visual evidence...

No plane parts anywhere. No bodies. Aircraft engines that didnt come from a 767.

BUT, they found passports of alleged hijackers that allegedly flew these planes....all in good and legible conditiin, no less.

C'mon guys...
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No man. You can't question something that's highly questionable. You're a loon who follows Alex Jones and lives in a basement. I could put a ridiculous amount of info on here, but it'd be immediately discredited without being read or watched.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Why is it more likely that they are wrong? Why is it that the ones who agree with the governements assesments are more correct? There have been scientists from very reputable universities like MIT that have called the NIST report and the governements official theory about what happened on 9/11 into questions. So why are people like those wrong? What if everything we have been told about 9/11 is a lie? The governement has lied to us many times in the past. Can you honestly say with any certainty that they are not lying about 9/11?
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The government has lied to us in the past, therefore they are lying to us now. Can you spot the fallacious logic?

Secondly, and more importantly, you act as if 9/11 happened in a dark, secret room where only the government had access (think water torture of Al-Qaeda). It didn't. It was very, very, public. I don't know of a single person that waited with bated breath for the official government report of 9/11 to come out to make up their mind about the events of that day.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
No man. You can't question something that's highly questionable. You're a loon who follows Alex Jones and lives in a basement. I could put a ridiculous amount of info on here, but it'd be immediately discredited without being read or watched.
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Let's make this thread more interesting. For those of you who believe it was a conspiracy:

1) What happened to the towers (all three)?
2) What happened to the Pentagon?
3) What happened to the other plane (if there was one)?
4) Who was directly responsible (meaning doing the actual dirty work)?
5) Who was indirectly responsible (the masterminds)?
6) To what end or goal was 9/11 for?

Please don't link videos. I just want to your own words of what you feel happened.
 
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For those who think no aircraft hit the twin towers, you have to be crazy. How the towers fell straignt down, who knows. Thousands died!
As far as an aircraft hitting the Pentagon, who knows. Some say a rocket. Regardless, dozens died there too! Some said the aircraft wings buckled in, in lieu of leaving a wide swath. The people at the Pentagon and the fire and EMS teams know what they found. Has anyone said what they say.
I know one thing, when I was in the Pentagon in November after 9/11, I could smell fuel.
It's amazing that no aircraft or bodies were found in Schanksville, PA that went into the ground!

The government can hide the truth from us, but how many people believe that.
Has the government hid the truth from us on JFK being assassinated? I believe so.
How many think the government might have been behind it?

How many think our government is lying to us on the Iran Nuclear Agreement and that it's a bad deal?

I for one trust hardly any "elected official" federal or state. They are only in it for what they can get out of it-the retirement (regardless of the number of terms they are in) and the healthcare benefits. What percentage of the delagates are there when bills are voted on? You can check their records and find out whether they were there and how they voted.They don't always vote in the best interest of they government or the way we'd like them too. I think they need "term limits" and their retirement pay (now 100% of what they draw) be only 2% per year served and the President should only get 20% of their salary at most and only 2 years selective service.
Alsp drop the electoral college and only the popular vote counts. Elected officials that pass any bills that pertain to "We the people" should be applicable to them. That was what was in the constitution but they voted an amendment that exempted them (Obamacare).
Does it do any good to replace one party with another when they don't do the job we expect them to do. Maybe they all need replaced.
 
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Oh, by the way, I believe the intended targetjn Washington, DC was either the White House or the Capitol Buidling. Any comments on that?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Here's an interesting summary on what is believed to have caused the collapse of the two towers......read it Pacer and then share your thoughts or interpretation

Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation
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I'll answer it this way. Its been quoted somewhere and I can't find the link at the moment, but I believe, like the article states....it's simple physics.

If you have 10 compacted squares of snow, one on top of the other....if you take a torch and heat the 7th or 8th cube, will the top 1 or 2 squares of snow compress the remaining 7 or 8? I don't see how unless the bottom 7 or 8 are compromised in some fashion. The force pushing up is equal to the one pushing down. I could see a semi collapse of 8 or 10 stories with the top finally choosing the path of least resistance(which would be falling off to the side) but for the top 10 stories to compact the resistence of 90 stories in close to freefall speed.....no! It's not physically possible..
 
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Pacer92 said:
I'll answer it this way. Its been quoted somewhere and I can't find the link at the moment, but I believe, like the article states....it's simple physics.

If you have 10 compacted squares of snow, one on top of the other....if you take a torch and heat the 7th or 8th cube, will the top 1 or 2 squares of snow compress the remaining 7 or 8? I don't see how unless the bottom 7 or 8 are compromised in some fashion. The force pushing up is equal to the one pushing down. I could see a semi collapse of 8 or 10 stories with the top finally choosing the path of least resistance(which would be falling off to the side) but for the top 10 stories to compact the resistence of 90 stories in close to freefall speed.... no! It's not physically possible..
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At least we've made a little progress. You can at least see the building didn't fall at free fall speed like your conspiracy websites want you to believe.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I'll answer it this way. Its been quoted somewhere and I can't find the link at the moment, but I believe, like the article states....it's simple physics.

If you have 10 compacted squares of snow, one on top of the other....if you take a torch and heat the 7th or 8th cube, will the top 1 or 2 squares of snow compress the remaining 7 or 8? I don't see how unless the bottom 7 or 8 are compromised in some fashion. The force pushing up is equal to the one pushing down. I could see a semi collapse of 8 or 10 stories with the top finally choosing the path of least resistance(which would be falling off to the side) but for the top 10 stories to compact the resistence of 90 stories in close to freefall speed.....no! It's not physically possible..
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Not an apt comparison. Even if we ignore obvious issues like weight.

Answer this: what was the most prevalent material in the structure below the point of impact? What was there more of in and around those floors than anything else? After all, that's what the top floors were falling into.
 
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