9/11 Conspiracy Thread

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Septic said:
Anyone with a copy of Microsoft flight simulator could have done it. ANYONE.

Flying is easy, landing are trickier but still relatively simple with the use of ILS. Of course, they didn't have to do that.

All they had to do was fly to a general vicinity and the hone in on the tallest buying. They trained as pilots, but six weeks with MS flight simulator and you're good.

Fun fact: MS Flight Sim took the trade center buildings out of the game so people wouldn't recreate the flight of the terrorists.
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Another question: Are you claiming these hijackers used a simulator? No simulator was mentioned that the hijackers had in their possession. (Home, work, wherever)
It's amazing again that lots of (more) experience pilots used a simulator to recreate the flight path of these planes and they had problems.
 
#128
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AirVol said:
Another question: Are you claiming these hijackers used a simulator? No simulator was mentioned that the hijackers had in their possession. (Home, work, wherever)
It's amazing again that lots of (more) experience pilots used a simulator to recreate the flight path of these planes and they had problems.
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Again, link? Other than your previous video that was debunked on the same page?
 
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Obsessed said:
How about the ole boy that owned the school that taught them?


You have the Internet. Google it.
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That's not how discussion works. The one who makes the claim has the obligation to back it up. My reaction to someone who justifies a conspiracy claim with "Google it" is to assume you are FOS.
 
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bamawriter said:
That's not how discussion works. The one who makes the claim has the obligation to back it up. My reaction to someone who justifies a conspiracy claim with "Google it" is to assume you are FOS.
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Go ahead and make that assumption then.


Every community needs a herd of sheep.
 
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Obsessed said:
Go ahead and make that assumption then.


Every community needs a herd of sheep.
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Come on ob, I'm as trusting of the government as huff or defend these days and am open to the possibility of 9/11 being more than meets the eye but when you make an assertion, the burden of proof is on you. Telling someone to Google it when they're asking for proof is about the same level of idiocy as the tumblr feminists demanding you "educate yourself, ****lord."
 
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9/11 - Hard Facts, Hard Truth | The Pentagon

Good read on the Pentagon.

Something that's not mentioned here is why did the FBI confiscate 84 of the 85 videos of the pentagon plane strike? The one we all know and have seen has a frame missing, why? The Sheraton Hotel, a Citgo gas station, and Doubletree hotels videos were all confiscated and never release. Why?
 
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AirVol said:
9/11 - Hard Facts, Hard Truth | The Pentagon

Good read on the Pentagon.

Something that's not mentioned here is why did the FBI confiscate 84 of the 85 videos of the pentagon plane strike? The one we all know and have seen has a frame missing, why? The Sheraton Hotel, a Citgo gas station, and Doubletree hotels videos were all confiscated and never release. Why?
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Why aren't you answering your own question? Question-begging is a worthless exercise.
 
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bamawriter said:
Is it really that hard to provide a link? If it is, why do you think that is?
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In OB's defense, there is a lot of sites and links out there that if you go into it with an open mind you can come to your own conclusions instead of believing what you hear on the news and from the govt. there's just too much info to go thru and raises a lot of questions for more research.
 
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AirVol said:
In OB's defense, there is a lot of sites and links out there that if you go into it with an open mind you can come to your own conclusions instead of believing what you hear on the news and from the govt. there's just too much info to go thru and raises a lot of questions for more research.
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"A lot of sites and links". But none provided. Solid.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Come on ob, I'm as trusting of the government as huff or defend these days and am open to the possibility of 9/11 being more than meets the eye but when you make an assertion, the burden of proof is on you. Telling someone to Google it when they're asking for proof is about the same level of idiocy as the tumblr feminists demanding you "educate yourself, ****lord."
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9-11 Hijackers Flight Training

Flight school owner who unwittingly trained 9/11 hijackers is accused of trafficking cocaine and heroin | Daily Mail Online

9/11 Flashback: US Flight Schools Still Unknowingly Training Terrorists? - ABC News

Let me know if you guys need more.
 
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bamawriter said:
"A lot of sites and links". But none provided. Solid.
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Damn, is it that hard to look up? Do some research man, does someone have to hold your hand when you have to take a sh!t? Didn't think so, you're a big boy now.
 
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I love how people don't support their arguments out of either laziness or dishonesty and then they call other people lazy for not looking it up themselves.

We don't know what you've read. Please share.
 
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volfanhill said:
The way the city is designed you could use it very easily like a run way. It guides you right in. I am sure as you fly low that target gets quite big. I would love Space Coasts opinion on this
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Look at a map of Manhattan. I think that if you are flying south at 800 feet it would be hard NOT to have hit those buildings. The one thing I think a little "remarkable" was the steep turn one took at the end. But at that point, he was target fixated. Make no mistake, these guys were well trained to do exactly what they did. They also got real lucky with the weather and the fact that both hit their targets. Conspiracy theories are just redonkulous.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
They were also drunk when they tried it. This was not that difficult.

I have a lot of time in 767s though.
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I'm glad you have weighed in on this.

The footage I watched showed both pilots such as yourself and USAF pilots attempting the same route that pilot took to hit the pentagon. None of them were able to do it. I do not know if the testing was manipulated to show a bias. I just know that I have no idea if the actual route taken was a real possibility.

In your opinion, what is the probability of that pilot hitting the pentagon with the success he had on his first attempt?
 
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Obsessed said:
I'm glad you have weighed in on this.

The footage I watched showed both pilots such as yourself and USAF pilots attempting the same route that pilot took to hit the pentagon. None of them were able to do it. I do not know if the testing was manipulated to show a bias. I just know that I have no idea if the actual route taken was a real possibility.

In your opinion, what is the probability of that pilot hitting the pentagon with the success he had on his first attempt?
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The drunk thing was a joke.

I haven't seen the profiles, though I am curious now as to whether I could do it the way they did it. I know how I would do that if I were attempting the same thing, and it would be simple for me to do it. These guys were psychopaths which introduces another aspect to this as well. I heard a phrase once that said that "there is nothing more dangerous as a psycho with a cause" These guys were intensely focused.

And the probability is pretty high given their mental state and focus. They did not care about the safety of the airplane. They probably had no clue if they were exceeding any structural limitations. They also got really really really lucky.
 
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