9-11

#26
#26
Obsessed said:
Ole boy that owned the building told them to drop it. He's on tape doing so.

Debris flung in to a building. Causing it to drop straight down? Really coug? 3 buildings all fall the same exact way? Btw there where more than 3 buildings that fell that day. The other wtc building fell too.
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All 7 of the WTC buildings were destroyed but the other 4 were so small they simply got demolished by the larger ones coming down because they were all in the same footprint.

I didn't just post that video of WTC7 on fire for no reason. It's proof that there were no explosives set in that building. It's impossible to do a controlled demo in days, let alone hours, and to claim that the explosives were already in place is lunacy. That building was occupied that morning, IE no explosives could have been in there. They certainly wouldn't set up explosives in a building that's on fire either.

Grand Vol said:
It's pretty easy to sit back and Monday Morning Quarterback the intelligence community after the fact. People can gloss over all the information in hindsight and find that one indicator that "it" was going to happen and point to it and say "see, they KNEW about it!" And I say again, if someone had told me on September 10th 2001 that terrorists were going to fly airliners into the WTC and the Pentagon, I would have thought they lost their mind and needed professional help. And I'm probably not alone in that assessment.

Just like people can look back at the indicators of WWII and say "they KNEW it was going to happen!" It's no secret Roosevelt wanted us in the war, but I don't think he wanted 3,000 Americans to die in order to do it. Nobody thought that an attack on Pearl Harbor could have come like it did and had you told the majority of the public the Japanese had come up with a special kind of torpedo that wouldn't bottom out in the harbor, they would have laughed at you.

Again, there were probably indicators of the attacks in advance. Maybe even details that were so unbelievable that they were dismissed. Our intelligence community took a black eye over the ordeal and I don't see the need to rake them over the coals because something was so far out there it was hard to believe.
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You're not, I woke up at 1pm that day to go to a 2pm class and literally hadn't heard a thing about the attack until I got to school. When someone at school told me that the US was attacked and hijackers flew planes into buildings I quite literally did not believe them. I literally turned to the person sitting beside them and proceeded to ask them if it what they were saying was true.
 
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#27
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rkw38 said:
The only thing that makes me question the official version is the lack of video of the airliner striking the Pentagon.
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Yeah, I don't buy into the conspiracy stuff and I generally think the official reports are correct....but I think any video evidence of a plane actually hitting the pentagon would go a long way to silence the doubters. Eyewitness accounts, something. Given the nature of the damage I find that particular attack has the most questions.
 
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rjd970 said:
Yeah, I don't buy into the conspiracy stuff and I generally think the official reports are correct....but I think any video evidence of a plane actually hitting the pentagon would go a long way to silence the doubters. Eyewitness accounts, something. Given the nature of the damage I find that particular attack has the most questions.
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They showed it. Things are what they seem 99% of the time.
 
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Escape Goat said:
I've seen video of it. It was played a lot in the coverage the day of the "event".
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I've seen video of the fireball after impact but, to my knowledge, there has been no video released that actually shows the plane striking the Pentagon.
 
#31
#31
coug said:
All 7 of the WTC buildings were destroyed but the other 4 were so small they simply got demolished by the larger ones coming down because they were all in the same footprint.

I didn't just post that video of WTC7 on fire for no reason. It's proof that there were no explosives set in that building. It's impossible to do a controlled demo in days, let alone hours, and to claim that the explosives were already in place is lunacy. That building was occupied that morning, IE no explosives could have been in there. They certainly wouldn't set up explosives in a building that's on fire either.



You're not, I woke up at 1pm that day to go to a 2pm class and literally hadn't heard a thing about the attack until I got to school. When someone at school told me that the US was attacked and hijackers flew planes into buildings I quite literally did not believe them. I literally turned to the person sitting beside them and proceeded to ask them if it what they were saying was true.
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9/11: in plane sight


Enjoy
 
#32
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rkw38 said:
I've seen video of the fireball after impact but, to my knowledge, there has been no video released that actually shows the plane striking the Pentagon.
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There was a woman who crawled out of that hole. Said there was no plane parts there.

The initial hole was 16 feet wide. Yeah. That sounds like a 747
 
#33
#33
Obsessed said:
There was a woman who crawled out of that hole. Said there was no plane parts there.
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So you are in a building that part of is demolished by something unexpectedly and you crawl out - do you think you would be a reliable witness of whether or not there were plane parts?

How on earth would she be in any frame of mind to accurately ascertain that?
 
#34
#34
So I presume the conspiracy theory is that a missile hit the Pentagon - where is the footage of that? Where is the evidence that it was a missile? Where was it fired from?
 
#36
#36
The only conspiracy was the elimination of asbestos coated beams in the upper floors of the two towers. They were outlawed by the time the last 40 or so floors were built.

If those beams would have been coated the towers would not have fallen.
 
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#37
volinbham said:
So I presume the conspiracy theory is that a missile hit the Pentagon - where is the footage of that? Where is the evidence that it was a missile? Where was it fired from?
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When you find it let me know. We could put this to bed then.

Oh wait.... They won't let us see them.

What to do, what to do.
 
#43
#43
If religion is the opiate of the masses, conspiracy theories are the opiate of the weak-minded.
 
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volinbham said:
So I presume the conspiracy theory is that a missile hit the Pentagon - where is the footage of that? Where is the evidence that it was a missile? Where was it fired from?
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More importantly what happened to the plane full of people that didn't hit the pentagon?
 
#48
#48
There's actually been some research done on conspiracy nuts. They are mostly males between the ages of 18 and 35, and they all fit a certain profile. It basically says that if a person has already bought into a conspiracy of some kind, they are much more likely to fall for others. Let me see if I can dig up the article

This may be it
Frontiers in Personality Science and Individual Differences | Research Topics

This one's better

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html
 
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volinbham said:
and more

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Pentagon - Popular Mechanics
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Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane

Now, that's a strong man right there.
 
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