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#52
#52
rocktopper16 said:
They died, My cousin was on that plane. It's saddens me that people believe these conspiracy theories.
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Just ignore them. They mean well, but they're just susceptible to this kind of stuff. Looking up conspiracy info is like a drug to them...they're always looking for more and it gets more extreme as time goes on.
 
#53
#53
rkw38 said:
I've seen video of the fireball after impact but, to my knowledge, there has been no video released that actually shows the plane striking the Pentagon.
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I've seen it. It is flying by at 500 mph, but it's there. It's a still camera shot
 
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#55
Escape Goat said:
Agreed, but I like obsessed, so I don't lump into the weak minded.
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Thanks E.G.

I'm not a "nut". But I do like to read and try my best to understand other theory's. I like to see other peoples views and understanding of facts. I find it helps me understand my views better or even change them.

Besides it helps me fall asleep at night when the insomnia kicks in. :)
 
#56
#56
My argument against a conspiracy theory: how could a government that screws everything up, execute an inside job on that massive of a scale, and keep it all under wraps?

For crying out loud, they can't even get a website to work properly when they had 3 years to get it ready.
 
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#57
VolFan32 said:
My argument against a conspiracy theory: how could a government that screws everything up, execute an inside job on that massive of a scale, and keep it all under wraps?

For crying out loud, they can't even get a website to work properly when they had 3 years to get it ready.
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Mic dropped
 
#58
#58
I've spent hundreds of hours researching the subject. Until you've done the same please be careful posting an uninformed statement. This is a serious issue. I encourage everyone to (as a part time hobby) do your own research.

You can start here. About Us World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? | AE911Truth

I cried and prayed with my family for quite a while that day. I certainly didn't want to believe what I know and am 100% convinced of now.

More than 2,000 of the TOP ENGINEERS AND Sky Scraper ARCHITECTS in the world are also convinced the "official story" is a coverup. Mostly made up of Members of the American Institute of Architects the 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth.org) will help educate you. This group represents more than 10,000 degreed/licensed architects, engineers, scientists, doctors and technical building consultants who have signed petitions calling for a new, independent investigation, with full subpoena power, into the destruction of the Twin Towers and the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11.

There is thousands of Data Points that Dispel the misinformation and disinformation of the "official 911 story" with scientific facts and forensic evidence.

ae911truth.org is:

■ Educating and motivating thousands of architects and engineers as well as the public at large
■ Obtaining a truly independent WTC investigation with subpoena power
■ Achieving mainstream media coverage for the cause

Your statement should be backed by facts. I hope you take time to study as I have.

For the first time in history a STEEL skycraper fell from "fire" at free-fall, unrestricted speed. On that day 3 fell.

P.S. Don't believe everything you read on Snopes.com
 
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#59
If this was a coverup by the government, it's the most-successful thing government has ever done.
 
#61
#61
rocktopper16 said:
They died, My cousin was on that plane. It's saddens me that people believe these conspiracy theories.
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What was your cousins name? Which plane? What airline? What airport did your cousin fly out of? Destination? Where was your cousin born? When? These are serious questions. Thank you.
 
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#62
volfan10735 said:
What was your cousins name? Which plane? What airline? What airport did your cousin fly out of? Destination? Where was your cousin born? When? These are serious questions. Thank you.
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Seriously? Let's dig up some old hurt. Stay classy.
 
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#64
VolFan32 said:
If this was a coverup by the government, it's the most-successful thing government has ever done.
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Three college kids got drunk and pulled off the website they couldn't yet the same group that couldn't successfully spy on the Vatican without getting caught pulled off 9/11.
 
#65
#65
Yankee_Vol said:
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You should follow your own advice. Don't believe everything you read
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P.S. I don't believe everything I read that's why I've spent hundreds, no actually thousands of hours reading, reviewing, analyzing documents, pictures, video, etc. etc on the subject of 911 Truth including almost all 'official' government documents. Again, you should find time to do some of the same. That is what's wrong - many folks are too busy and unwilling to spend time investigating on their own and independently. All top brass from all industries know this. Not just our government. The ae911Truth.org website is only 1 of thousands of places to read.
 
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#66
I can't spend "thousands of hours" researching because I have this thing called a life.

Like I said, they had 3 years to get a website running. It took them days to get to the Gulf after Katrina. What makes you think they could pull this off flawlessly? The plans would've had to been in the works since Washington was president.
 
#67
#67
VolFan32 said:
I can't spend "thousands of hours" researching because I have this thing called a life.

Like I said, they had 3 years to get a website running. It took them days to get to the Gulf after Katrina. What makes you think they could pull this off flawlessly? The plans would've had to been in the works since Washington was president.
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North wood. Just saying
 
#68
#68
VolFan32 said:
I can't spend "thousands of hours" researching because I have this thing called a life.

Like I said, they had 3 years to get a website running. It took them days to get to the Gulf after Katrina. What makes you think they could pull this off flawlessly? The plans would've had to been in the works since Washington was president.
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Agreed. 9/11 happened on 9/11/2001 about 12 years ago. I discovered this difficult new reality about 2004 so the "thousands of hours" have been over about 9 years of "hobby" research.

Your statement is accurate but the scientific and forensic facts prove otherwise. This is a very serious issue. So serious that if you were involved and opened your mouth - you're dead. Dead by the legal or illegal authorities. Death is pretty motivating wouldn't you say.
 
#69
#69
volfan10735 said:
I've spent hundreds of hours researching the subject. Until you've done the same please be careful posting an uninformed statement. This is a serious issue. I encourage everyone to (as a part time hobby) do your own research.

You can start here. About Us World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? | AE911Truth

I cried and prayed with my family for quite a while that day. I certainly didn't want to believe what I know and am 100% convinced of now.

More than 2,000 of the TOP ENGINEERS AND Sky Scraper ARCHITECTS in the world are also convinced the "official story" is a coverup. Mostly made up of Members of the American Institute of Architects the 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth.org) will help educate you. This group represents more than 10,000 degreed/licensed architects, engineers, scientists, doctors and technical building consultants who have signed petitions calling for a new, independent investigation, with full subpoena power, into the destruction of the Twin Towers and the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11.

There is thousands of Data Points that Dispel the misinformation and disinformation of the "official 911 story" with scientific facts and forensic evidence.

ae911truth.org is:

■ Educating and motivating thousands of architects and engineers as well as the public at large
■ Obtaining a truly independent WTC investigation with subpoena power
■ Achieving mainstream media coverage for the cause

Your statement should be backed by facts. I hope you take time to study as I have.

For the first time in history a STEEL skycraper fell from "fire" at free-fall, unrestricted speed. On that day 3 fell.

P.S. Don't believe everything you read on Snopes.com
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Luckily i don't believe everything i read on VolNation either, like this.
 
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#71
volfan10735 said:
I've spent hundreds of hours researching the subject. Until you've done the same please be careful posting an uninformed statement. This is a serious issue. I encourage everyone to (as a part time hobby) do your own research.

You can start here. About Us World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? | AE911Truth

I cried and prayed with my family for quite a while that day. I certainly didn't want to believe what I know and am 100% convinced of now.

More than 2,000 of the TOP ENGINEERS AND Sky Scraper ARCHITECTS in the world are also convinced the "official story" is a coverup. Mostly made up of Members of the American Institute of Architects the 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth.org) will help educate you. This group represents more than 10,000 degreed/licensed architects, engineers, scientists, doctors and technical building consultants who have signed petitions calling for a new, independent investigation, with full subpoena power, into the destruction of the Twin Towers and the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11.

There is thousands of Data Points that Dispel the misinformation and disinformation of the "official 911 story" with scientific facts and forensic evidence.

ae911truth.org is:

■ Educating and motivating thousands of architects and engineers as well as the public at large
■ Obtaining a truly independent WTC investigation with subpoena power
■ Achieving mainstream media coverage for the cause

Your statement should be backed by facts. I hope you take time to study as I have.

For the first time in history a STEEL skycraper fell from "fire" at free-fall, unrestricted speed. On that day 3 fell.

P.S. Don't believe everything you read on Snopes.com
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This is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post. Conspiracy theorists have similar behavior to drug addicts. They're usually "repeat offenders", meaning once they've bought into one conspiracy, they will likely buy into more, and they crave for more "info". There is legit research done on this.
 
#72
#72
Insunseri said:
This is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post. Conspiracy theorists have similar behavior to drug addicts. They're usually "repeat offenders", meaning once they've bought into one conspiracy, they will likely buy into more, and they crave for more "info". There is legit research done on this.
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I sense some irony here
 
#74
#74
VolFan32 said:
My argument against a conspiracy theory: how could a government that screws everything up, execute an inside job on that massive of a scale, and keep it all under wraps?

For crying out loud, they can't even get a website to work properly when they had 3 years to get it ready.
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#75
#75
volfan10735 said:
I've spent hundreds of hours researching the subject. Until you've done the same please be careful posting an uninformed statement. This is a serious issue. I encourage everyone to (as a part time hobby) do your own research.

You can start here. About Us World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? | AE911Truth

I cried and prayed with my family for quite a while that day. I certainly didn't want to believe what I know and am 100% convinced of now.

More than 2,000 of the TOP ENGINEERS AND Sky Scraper ARCHITECTS in the world are also convinced the "official story" is a coverup. Mostly made up of Members of the American Institute of Architects the 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth.org) will help educate you. This group represents more than 10,000 degreed/licensed architects, engineers, scientists, doctors and technical building consultants who have signed petitions calling for a new, independent investigation, with full subpoena power, into the destruction of the Twin Towers and the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11.

There is thousands of Data Points that Dispel the misinformation and disinformation of the "official 911 story" with scientific facts and forensic evidence.

ae911truth.org is:

■ Educating and motivating thousands of architects and engineers as well as the public at large
■ Obtaining a truly independent WTC investigation with subpoena power
■ Achieving mainstream media coverage for the cause

Your statement should be backed by facts. I hope you take time to study as I have.

For the first time in history a STEEL skycraper fell from "fire" at free-fall, unrestricted speed. On that day 3 fell.

P.S. Don't believe everything you read on Snopes.com
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so do you believe the planes didn't hit the WTC's or just that something other the inertia/energy and fuel form the plane brought them down
 
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