92nd PGA Championship

[cotton]

Agreed. Should be bunkers inside the ropes and a waste area anywhere that a patron can walk.

I saw an explanation as to why this was considered and rejected. There would have been bunkers divided, with parts inside the rope and parts outside; how do you play that?

The final consideration seems to have been a fear of confusing players even further. If some bunkers are bunkers and others are not, or if the south section of a bunker and the north is waste, players could have been even more confused. I'm not sure I totally agree, but I do understand why they chose to call every man-made sandy spot a sand trap.

It's just bad for the PGA for something like this to happen.

On that we agree. Nobody--players, fans, or the PGA--wanted to see this ending. However, I'm not sure what would have made it better. A rules official telling Johnson, "Hey, you are in a trap," would have prevented this problem, but are rules officials really supposed to follow folks around and tell them when they are in a trap?

Instead, they tried to inform every player, in multiple ways, that basically everything that might be a trap was a trap.

 

[golfballs]

I saw an explanation as to why this was considered and rejected. There would have been bunkers divided, with parts inside the rope and parts outside; how do you play that?

You fix the ropes.

A rules official telling Johnson, "Hey, you are in a trap," would have prevented this problem, but are rules officials really supposed to follow folks around and tell them when they are in a trap?

When it's the leader on the final hole of the a major and he is amongst the crowd like that - yes.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

does another sport exist that allows a fan to get closer to the players than golf? i watch old golf videos and those people are running around like idiots while the players are trying to walk though them. obviously they don't allow fans to circle the green anymore, but you can still get really close to these guys. i wonder if they ever worry about their safety.

Apparently, off road racing...

 

[GAVol]

I'm still no convinced that DJ didn't know immediately what he had done. The way he backed away after he initially put the club down was odd loking.
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[ridethelightening]

I'm still no convinced that DJ didn't know immediately what he had done. The way he backed away after he initially put the club down was odd loking.
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Said he was asking a fan to move their shadow
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[volfanbill]

It's very easy to change where you put the ropes, but then the fans are too far back.

Also GA I tended to believe DJ's story of the shadow because he was so quick to answer it and shrugged it off.
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[cotton]

An interview with the rules official that was walking with the final group:

Bill Fields: Eye Of The Storm: Golf Digest

 

[govols/cc]

A way to prevent this from happening again is redesign the bunkering to make it clear what is a bunker or tell whistling straights it's been real.
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[GAVol]

Also GA I tended to believe DJ's story of the shadow because he was so quick to answer it and shrugged it off.
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I went back and watched it on my DVR and I think you're right. I didn't realize he had backed off due to a shadow.

 

[GAVol]

A way to prevent this from happening again is redesign the bunkering to make it clear what is a bunker or tell whistling straights it's been real.
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Or just simply distribute the same rule sheet next time. That along with the memory of Dustin Johnson should eliminate the issue completely.

 

[govols/cc]

Or just simply distribute the same rule sheet next time. That along with the memory of Dustin Johnson should eliminate the issue completely.

I say be done with the place. It's not that great of a venue anyway aside from the questionable gimmicks. If a patch of dirt is a bunker then I guess if somebody pisses on it then it's a water hazard.
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[Vols520]

Or just simply distribute the same rule sheet next time. That along with the memory of Dustin Johnson should eliminate the issue completely.

Or have a rules official stand a the first tee box on Thursday and quickly cover local rules.
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[GAVol]

Or have a rules official stand a the first tee box on Thursday and quickly cover local rules.
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I know the rules were posted all over the locker room and a copy was given to everyone. The whole deal sucks, but I'm not sure what else they could have done.

 

[Vols520]

I know the rules were posted all over the locker room and a copy was given to everyone. The whole deal sucks, but I'm not sure what else they could have done.

I have always been more of a fan of tree-lined fairway courses. THe views were awesome at the course, but the 18th hole was just dumb as a par 4.

KJ Choi hit a drive 230 cuz it was so into the wind and uphill. Many players simply couldn't get it there in 2.

That hole pissed me off the entire week.

 

[GAVol]

I agree about 18. What was there, maybe 1 or 2 birdies on Sunday? On a hole that long, that 4th round pin position was ridiculous.

 

[Vols520]

I agree about 18. What was there, maybe 1 or 2 birdies on Sunday? On a hole that long, that 4th round pin position was ridiculous.

I really hope a US Open is never there.

 

[GAVol]

I really hope a US Open is never there.

Man . . . It would be pure carnage once the USGA got out there and wrecked the setup.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I say be done with the place. It's not that great of a venue anyway aside from the questionable gimmicks. If a patch of dirt is a bunker then I guess if somebody pisses on it then it's a water hazard.
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Uh, just no.
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[vol_in_ar]

I agree about 18. What was there, maybe 1 or 2 birdies on Sunday? On a hole that long, that 4th round pin position was ridiculous.

18 was worse when it first opened...
they added the fronting to the green to allow for some margin of error.