_Vols in NC...get out and vote!!! Need your help. MAY 8

#576
#576
marcusluvsvols said:
Hardly. However, ill be the first to admit that the constitution is not the document that guides my life. I don't pray over it, study it, strive to live by it. You don't either. Every man is appointed once to die, and then the judgment. When I stand before the maker of Heaven and Earth he's not going to ask me if I upheld the laws of men. He's going to care if I upheld His laws. You know that and so do I. The rest of these cats can plead ignorance OE you know the truth. You gonna step inthat booth and vote directly against Gods will?
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My spiritual beliefs and freedom are not hand in hand.

I hate tyranny, you seem to cherish it.

One, regardless of their life style, should be able to live as free as possible within a society.

I still have total freedom to share christ and they have total freedom to listen or not.

Christianity is not coerscion.
 
#578
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Burhead said:
I grew up in a religious household but I've come to the realization that I'd rather be a man of science, reason, and intelligence instead of being a religious nutcase (No offense). If there is a God than on Judgement Day I will rather stand on my principle than support a body that has only brought hate into this world.
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Similar story, but I embrace both.
 
#580
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marcusluvsvols said:
Hardly. However, ill be the first to admit that the constitution is not the document that guides my life. I don't pray over it, study it, strive to live by it. You don't either. Every man is appointed once to die, and then the judgment. When I stand before the maker of Heaven and Earth he's not going to ask me if I upheld the laws of men. He's going to care if I upheld His laws. You know that and so do I. The rest of these cats can plead ignorance OE you know the truth. You gonna step inthat booth and vote directly against Gods will?
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I'll be waiting to hear that you've cut the hands off of a thief and sold your daughter into slavery.

You're the biggest sinner/hypocrite of them all if you're going to apply one standard of "God's Will" but not any others.
 
#581
#581
OrangeEmpire said:
It comes down to one thing, what would Jesus do?

1.) Jesus would not limit individual freedom

2.) Jesus would minister to homosexuals with love and compassion.
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Wrong an number 1, right on num 2. Jesus showed how much he tolerated sin when he turned over the tables and single handedly ran them all out of the temple for trying to make money there. He demonstrated their "freedom" to do business ended when it conflicted with Gods word. He showed compassion to Mary Magdalene every one remembers that when it suits them. They forget He also said to "go and sin no more." He meant that. People these days paint jesus as a peace loving hippy type...He is also God Almighty and will not tolerate sin. He burnt Sodom and Gomorrha to the ground for a reason. Killing everyone in it. He flooded the whole world and killed every human save Noahs family. Convenient to forget that. Jesus is God, and God hates sin. Will not tolerate it without repentance.
 
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#583
marcusluvsvols said:
Hardly. However, ill be the first to admit that the constitution is not the document that guides my life. I don't pray over it, study it, strive to live by it. You don't either. Every man is appointed once to die, and then the judgment. When I stand before the maker of Heaven and Earth he's not going to ask me if I upheld the laws of men. He's going to care if I upheld His laws. You know that and so do I. The rest of these cats can plead ignorance OE you know the truth. You gonna step inthat booth and vote directly against Gods will?
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1. The Constitution is the document that is supposed to guide both the Federal Government and the individual state governments in the United States. You want to disregard that document so that you can have a theocracy. At least be honest in admitting that.

2. You are never going to "stand before god" and answer questions. That is a children's story. If there is an all-powerful and all-knowing god, such a god does not need to patronize you in a mock trial: such a god would already know the answers.

3. You do not know the will of this god. You simply know the will of certain human authors that wrote neat stories.

4. Moreover, you are not conforming to the will of these authors. You are not hearkening the government to mandate that women be prohibited from teaching men or that women remain quiet in an assembly. So, you might have this notch (anti-homosexual marriage) marriage on your belt, but you are failing in making others conform to the rest of the dictates in Paul's Epistles.

5. Speaking of failing to conform to dictates, you are failing to conform to the very last admonition in the bible: Let the wicked be wicked; let the filthy be filthy; let the righteous be righteous. God will judge.

The fact is that you and your ilk, simply cherry-pick the parts of the bible you find convenient, and then start crusades based solely on your personal preferences. To me, that seems to count as a higher-order blasphemy than anything else. I would imagine that for a god-fearing Christiant, blasphemy would have to be a sin of greater magnitude than consensual sex.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
1.) Wow, you are really using those as examples of Jesus being against individual freedom?

How?
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cuz he's GAWD and can do whatever the hell he wants to do

except keep some dumb chick from eating an apple, go figure
 
#586
#586
The real problem is that most of the voters in North Carolina didn't even know what they were really voting on. Most thought it was just a question as simple as "Do you believe in gay marriage". But it went much much further than that.
 
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MG1968 said:
cuz he's GAWD and can do whatever the hell he wants to do

except keep some dumb chick from eating an apple, go figure
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I find it baffling his examples, how do you equate money changers in the temple to private individual freedom?
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
He burnt Sodom and Gomorrha to the ground for a reason.
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The reason was because the denizens of those towns raped visitors; there was no consent. It was come out so that we may gang-rape you. Bible thumpers want to point to this story as evidence that god hates ***s; no, if it is evidence about anything, it is that death is an appropriate punishment for rape.
 
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therealUT said:
The reason was because the denizens of those towns raped visitors; there was no consent. It was come out so that we may gang-rape you. Bible thumpers want to point to this story as evidence that god hates ***s; no, if it is evidence about anything, it is that death is an appropriate punishment for rape.
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Ive been in crazy arguments over this
 
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MG1968 said:
I'll be waiting to hear that you've cut the hands off of a thief and sold your daughter into slavery.

You're the biggest sinner/hypocrite of them all if you're going to apply one standard of "God's Will" but not any others.
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You don't understand the meaning of the word hypocrite. Nor do you have any idea how I live my life. I am a sinner, freely admit I have many flaws and a sin nature. That doesn't change Gods word. Nor does it change the standards we will all be judged by. I. Strive to live as the Bible commands and lead my family that way. I fail sometimes. We all do. That doesn't mean I can't look at His word and speak about its truth. My opinion is valid just as yours, and you are in no position to judge me. I hate no one. I love God.
 
#597
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marcusluvsvols said:
Desperate worthless rant. I've sat and watched my country be run in the ground by a community organizer for 4 years but accept it because I understand it was put to a vote and he won. You have turned to hatred towards me, made a fool of yourself, threatened to turn your back on God, and challenged the tax status of every church in America bc a popular vote IN A STATE YOU DON'T RESIDE didn't go the way you wanted it to. Brilliant work. Drunk again?
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May God have mercy on your bigoted soul.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
You don't understand the meaning of the word hypocrite. Nor do you have any idea how I live my life. I am a sinner, freely admit I have many flaws and a sin nature. That doesn't change Gods word. Nor does it change the standards we will all be judged by. I. Strive to live as the Bible commands and lead my family that way. I fail sometimes. We all do. That doesn't mean I can't look at His word and speak about its truth. My opinion is valid just as yours, and you are in no position to judge me. I hate no one. I love God.
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Apparently you have never read the book of James
 
#600
#600
so when will abolishing divorce be on the ballot in NC? Seems that goes against the definition of marriage too and we just want to protect it at all costs
 
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