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Basically same thing I was trying to say. The Germans overstretched their capabilities and supply lines and thought they could show the Russians who was boss.

We politely landed in normandy gave a good effort to germany and shut it down for the russians
 

No no no, my precious OE.

USSR and Germany had a "peace" agreement (aka, I won't **** with you and you won't **** with me), but Hitler felt so good about how his end of the war was going that he decided to not only destroy the bastion of Communism he hated so much, but to also begin his genocide. He stretched his military power/resources/money so far, wide, and thin that he left himself vulnerable and weak. Coupled with Japan's foolish decision to attack us, the Axis essentially offed itself.
 
Did the U.S. win WWII? I seem to remember allowing half of Europe to fall under socialist Soviet hegemony. Is that what we are calling victory?

Well, maybe we won in the Pacific; but, again, we allowed half of Asia to fall under socialist hegemony there as well...

Maybe, just maybe, we did not "win" WWII...

When ALL loses are counted, which wars have we won?
 
No no no, my precious OE.

USSR and Germany had a "peace" agreement (aka, I won't **** with you and you won't **** with me), but Hitler felt so good about how his end of the war was going that he decided to not only destroy the bastion of Communism he hated so much, but to also begin his genocide. He stretched his military power/resources/money so far, wide, and thin that he left himself vulnerable and weak. Coupled with Japan's foolish decision to attack us, the Axis essentially offed itself.

Negative ghostrider, The Big Red machine defeated Germany

#cometogrips
 
Lost our soul?

Indeed. The reasons for and the manner in which the war against Mexico was fought were horrid. The reason for: more slave states. The manner in which: widespread rape and brutality.

Scott was very much taken back by what was going on in Mexico when he arrived and felt great shame over it.
 
Indeed. The reasons for and the manner in which the war against Mexico was fought were horrid. The reason for: more slave states. The manner in which: widespread rape and brutality.

Scott was very much taken back by what was going on in Mexico when he arrived and felt great shame over it.

Homosexual relationships/marriages ?
 
Indeed. The reasons for and the manner in which the war against Mexico was fought were horrid. The reason for: more slave states. The manner in which: widespread rape and brutality.

Scott was very much taken back by what was going on in Mexico when he arrived and felt great shame over it.

All true................so have we really ever won?
 
No, I know from movies and cartoons that we won the Revolutionary War, and the French showed up in the last 5 minutes of the final battle, on a boat, and tried to steal our thunder. I think they fired like 3 cannonballs and helped us take down British Hitler in the final battle.
 
No, I know from movies and cartoons that we won the Revolutionary War, and the French showed up in the last 5 minutes of the final battle, on a boat, and tried to steal our thunder. I think they fired like 3 cannonballs and helped us take down British Hitler in the final battle.

Public education......:)
 
No, I know from movies and cartoons that we won the Revolutionary War, and the French showed up in the last 5 minutes of the final battle, on a boat, and tried to steal our thunder. I think they fired like 3 cannonballs and helped us take down British Hitler in the final battle.

Freedumb Fries!!
 
But, we declared war...

I was under the impression that the reasons for going to war were not in any way addressed or rectified in the treaty that ended the war; that, basically, we just returned to the status quo.

I can see that. The British left Michigan cut support to the creek and tribes in florida and bama.

Heck, we annexed florida for pennies on the dollar. No way that happens if the british are players.

Also peace with trade of cotton, tobacco with Britain.

Imo, national prominence was gained with Jackson and it spilled over to his successors.

Without the war, imo, the dissolution of the national bank never occurs.

:)
 

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