A black James Bond??

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I'm not a fan of either, but I think its a perfect fit.
 
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Weezer said:
It's Kaitlyn Jenner, and no. Doesn't have an English accent. Bond has to have an English accent since he/she is MI6.
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Former Bond girl Caroline Cossey?

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Imagine the uproar when Bond girls become Bond guys. So much outrage.
 
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Can't wait for the day where these threads don't have to exist. Where all races are treated as one and it isn't a news story if a traditionally white movie character is played by a black man. Who cares. It's a movie.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Can't wait for the day where these threads don't have to exist. Where all races are treated as one and it isn't a news story if a traditionally white movie character is played by a black man. Who cares. It's a movie.
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So you would have been okay with a white actor playing T'Challa in the Black Panther movies?

I agree with your general sentiment. The color of one's skin should not matter. But movies are a visual medium and when drawing from source material, those familiar with the source material want to see accuracy. Going back to a previous discussion, I grew up reading Spider-Man comics. Peter Parker was a white kid from Queens. Been that way for decades. So I expected him to be portrayed by a white actor for accuracy sake.

Probably not the right forum to have a full blown discussion on race issues, but when it comes to life in general, I defer to MLK. The content of a man's heart is what I base my opinion on, not the color of his skin.
 
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Weezer said:
So you would have been okay with a white actor playing T'Challa in the Black Panther movies?
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T'Challa is necessarily African. It's a big part of his story. I'm a huge Spiderman fan but there is literally nothing about his character that requires him to be white, and I wouldn't care what race they cast as long as he's as awesome as Tom Holland.

Ra's Al Ghul is Arabic, not white, but nobody batted an eye with Liam Neeson's casting because it's not really essential to the story.
 
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n_huffhines said:
T'Challa is necessarily African. It's a big part of his story. I'm a huge Spiderman fan but there is literally nothing about his character that requires him to be white, and I wouldn't care what race they cast as long as he's as awesome as Tom Holland.

Ra's Al Ghul is Arabic, not white, but nobody batted an eye with Liam Neeson's casting because it's not really essential to the story.
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Your response would be better suited toward k-town. He said all races should be treated as one and the race of a character doesn’t matter. Thus, in the example given in the post that you responded to, race doesn’t matter. Weezer pointed out that it sure can.

I’m still waiting on what your earlier post has to do with Bond.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Your response would be better suited toward k-town. He said all races should be treated as one and the race of a character doesn’t matter. Thus, in the example given in the post that you responded to, race doesn’t matter. Weezer pointed out that it sure can.

I’m still waiting on what your earlier post has to do with Bond.
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It's self evident and I did explain it, yet here you are still asking dumb questions
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's self evident and I did explain it, yet here you are still asking dumb questions
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So no. You don’t see that your reply was better suited for k-town. That’s all you had to say.

Your support for the stupid tweet still hasn’t been intelligently linked toward Bond. You can give that another try tomorrow.
 
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n_huffhines said:
T'Challa is necessarily African. It's a big part of his story. I'm a huge Spiderman fan but there is literally nothing about his character that requires him to be white, and I wouldn't care what race they cast as long as he's as awesome as Tom Holland.

Ra's Al Ghul is Arabic, not white, but nobody batted an eye with Liam Neeson's casting because it's not really essential to the story.
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A big part of Peter Parker's story is he is a geeky white kid from Queens that gets picked on by school bullies like Flash Thompson. I disagree with your assessment it doesn't matter.
 
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Weezer said:
A big part of Peter Parker's story is he is a geeky white kid from Queens that gets picked on by school bullies like Flash Thompson. I disagree with your assessment it doesn't matter.
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What does his whiteness have to do with anything? Literally nothing changes if he's any other race. If T'Challa is another race, the story doesn't make sense.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What does his whiteness have to do with anything? Literally nothing changes if he's any other race. If T'Challa is another race, the story doesn't make sense.
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If you change his race, you change the story. That's true of both Peter Parker and T'Challa.

I'm not against diversity, but I don't think the answer is making white characters black. The answer is creating strong black characters.
 
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Weezer said:
If you change his race, you change the story. That's true of both Peter Parker and T'Challa.

I'm not against diversity, but I don't think the answer is making white characters black. The answer is creating strong black characters.
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What about PP's story changes?
 
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n_huffhines said:
What about PP's story changes?
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Peter Parker already can’t catch a break. Now imagine if the old Parker Luck was compounded by the discrimination of growing up as a black kid.

They are basically telling this story and it differences in Miles Morales Spider-Man.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Your response would be better suited toward k-town. He said all races should be treated as one and the race of a character doesn’t matter. Thus, in the example given in the post that you responded to, race doesn’t matter. Weezer pointed out that it sure can.

I’m still waiting on what your earlier post has to do with Bond.
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What are you talking about? Those have never been my words. Not surprised you lack the nuance to understand anything I have said.

Treat everyone equally does not mean treat everyone as one race. It means respect the differences in cultures and backgrounds while holding the same respect for each group.

Some characters' race or ethnicity is a huge part of their character. Some it doesn't matter.


Weezer said:
If you change his race, you change the story. That's true of both Peter Parker and T'Challa.

I'm not against diversity, but I don't think the answer is making white characters black. The answer is creating strong black characters.
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Weezer said:
A big part of Peter Parker's story is he is a geeky white kid from Queens that gets picked on by school bullies like Flash Thompson. I disagree with your assessment it doesn't matter.
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Dude you are completely lost on this. Spider-Man in no way is defined by being a white kid. The main character beats are geeky kid from multi-ethnic Queens bitten by spider. He is picked on by bullies like Flash, who is played by a poc in the MCU. Didn't change Flash. Wouldn't change Peter.

It would be wrong to have a white African prince of an all black nation. It would be wrong to have a black Magneto. His ethnicity is essential to his character and motivations.

It would change some characters completely, with many characters it wouldn't matter.
 
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