A Conspiracy You Believe or Wouldn't Be Shocked If Real

#176
#176
utvolpj said:
The interesting thing about it is that it pushes civilization back centuries before historians currently believe. If true it would be very difficult to get buy in from people who spent their entire lives on an incorrect path
Click to expand...

I have a love/hate with Graham Hancock. He focuses on what supports his hypothesis and doesn't address the evidence that doesn't. Even worse, he claims he is being attacked when it is brought up. He wants his questions answered and doesn't want to answer the questions of mainstream theory. His interview on Joe Rogan with the skeptic society was informative, every time a counter point was brought up he replied "not my problem". Uhm, yes, Graham, it is your problem. He focuses on his persecution then throws around evidence with an attitude of everyone else is wrong.

That said, I really believe there is more to human history than we have been led to believe by the mainstream, and they do no favors by continually marginalizing guys like Hancock. If he is so wacky then let's have a debate or have him publish and let other academics poke holes if they are so easy to discredit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MercyPercy and LouderVol
#177
#177
rjd970 said:
I have a love/hate with Graham Hancock. He focuses on what supports his hypothesis and doesn't address the evidence that doesn't. Even worse, he claims he is being attacked when it is brought up. He wants his questions answered and doesn't want to answer the questions of mainstream theory. His interview on Joe Rogan with the skeptic society was informative, every time a counter point was brought up he replied "not my problem". Uhm, yes, Graham, it is your problem. He focuses on his persecution then throws around evidence with an attitude of everyone else is wrong.

That said, I really believe there is more to human history than we have been led to believe by the mainstream, and they do no favors by continually marginalizing guys like Hancock. If he is so wacky then let's have a debate or have him publish and let other academics poke holes if they are so easy to discredit.
Click to expand...
Yeah, his "I smoked some drug and thus i KNOW how things work" bit gets old and doesnt do him credit.

If that was true the people who smoked that stuff would be running the world and not living on subsistence.
 
#179
#179
rjd970 said:
I have a love/hate with Graham Hancock. He focuses on what supports his hypothesis and doesn't address the evidence that doesn't. Even worse, he claims he is being attacked when it is brought up. He wants his questions answered and doesn't want to answer the questions of mainstream theory. His interview on Joe Rogan with the skeptic society was informative, every time a counter point was brought up he replied "not my problem". Uhm, yes, Graham, it is your problem. He focuses on his persecution then throws around evidence with an attitude of everyone else is wrong.

That said, I really believe there is more to human history than we have been led to believe by the mainstream, and they do no favors by continually marginalizing guys like Hancock. If he is so wacky then let's have a debate or have him publish and let other academics poke holes if they are so easy to discredit.
Click to expand...

I agree. I think there's some pretty compelling evidence that human civilization goes back farther than we thought, but as long as he keeps involving woo woo mysticism and vibrations building the pyramids, he's not going to get mainstream credit. That being said, I don't think he cares at this point, his whole shtick now is that everyone is out to get him for his radical beliefs. Without that opposition, he wouldn't have much if anything to rant about anymore.
 
#181
#181
Weezer said:
Twitter Users Called The Super Bowl Segment About Pat Tillman “Stomach Turning” (yahoo.com)
Inside Pat Tillman's Death In Afghanistan And The Cover-Up That Followed (allthatsinteresting.com)
I knew Tillman had been killed by friendly fire, but I guess I never realized how shady it was.
Click to expand...

Sadly, shady military deaths aren't new. IIRC, General Patton's death is believed to be a Russo-USA operation. The Ruskies and Muricans both feared he'd eventually generate a US-Russian war. There were whispers he'd end up being a threat to Eisenhower's presidential aspirations. And if he actually won, he would spark a third world war, starting with Russia. I don't remember what book or magazine article made this claim. But his accident and death was very suspicious.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rasputin_Vol and PEPPERJAX
#182
#182
WoodsmanVol said:
Sadly, shady military deaths aren't new. IIRC, General Patton's death is believed to be a Russo-USA operation. The Ruskies and Muricans both feared he'd eventually generate a US-Russian war. There were whispers he'd end up being a threat to Eisenhower's presidential aspirations. And if he actually won, he would spark a third world war, starting with Russia. I don't remember what book or magazine article made this claim. But his accident and death was very suspicious.
Click to expand...
Agreed, I always thought that there was more to Patton’s death.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rasputin_Vol, hog88 and WoodsmanVol
#183
#183
Conspiracy theory decision-tree...

Is the proposed conspiracy theory a vast conspiracy?

Yes = almost certainly untrue
No = likely plausible
 
#184
#184
rjd970 said:
I have a love/hate with Graham Hancock. He focuses on what supports his hypothesis and doesn't address the evidence that doesn't. Even worse, he claims he is being attacked when it is brought up. He wants his questions answered and doesn't want to answer the questions of mainstream theory. His interview on Joe Rogan with the skeptic society was informative, every time a counter point was brought up he replied "not my problem". Uhm, yes, Graham, it is your problem. He focuses on his persecution then throws around evidence with an attitude of everyone else is wrong.

That said, I really believe there is more to human history than we have been led to believe by the mainstream, and they do no favors by continually marginalizing guys like Hancock. If he is so wacky then let's have a debate or have him publish and let other academics poke holes if they are so easy to discredit.
Click to expand...
I think he's at least pushed a discussion which the status quo never cared to have. Whether him being in the front is a good thing is up for debate no doubt. He has also brought many smart and well researched people into the arena. They are much more difficult to discredit but as long as he's the lightning rod the academics can go after him while ignoring some of the real science.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LouderVol
#185
#185
dduncan4163 said:
Okay I'm bored and found myself going down a conspiracy and paranormal rabbit hole. It got me wondering what some of yall have to say. So what conspiracy theories, paranormal and or UFO events do you believe could be real. I want anything and everything. The Kennedy assasination. A good ghost story, ETC I'm not here to judge or poke fun. I'm genuinely curious. I know their is more to reality than whats shown on the news or what we experience day to day. So give me what you got Nation. My mind is open.

I went back and forth on whether to put this here or the pub. I decided here because a ton of these are political by their nature but feel free to move if ya like.
Click to expand...
That Boebert turned tricks/did porn.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PEPPERJAX
#187
#187
utvolpj said:
I think he's at least pushed a discussion which the status quo never cared to have. Whether him being in the front is a good thing is up for debate no doubt. He has also brought many smart and well researched people into the arena. They are much more difficult to discredit but as long as he's the lightning rod the academics can go after him while ignoring some of the real science.
Click to expand...
I think the issue is he doesnt go about it the scientific way, he is an admitted story teller. Which is fine, but that's not going to drive the science. Which is what is needed. And after he goes about it not-scientifically he gets upset when the science doesnt immediately fall in line.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rjd970
#192
#192
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top