A Different Question

#4
#4
Maybe we'll get lucky and just have a revolving door of coaches each year.
 
#5
#5
volinbham said:
Suppose Fulmer is fired - how many years do you give the new guy to win the SECCG?
Click to expand...
It would depend on when the change is made. I'd want to see what kind of shape TCHFCATUTK is leaving the program in before setting timelines. Also, I'd want to see who the coach is.
 
#7
#7
hatvol96 said:
It would depend on when the change is made. I'd want to see what kind of shape TCHFCATUTK is leaving the program in before setting timelines. Also, I'd want to see who the coach is.
Click to expand...

Assume it is next year - program is in good shape talent-wise (as good as it ever is when a coach is forced out).

Why does the coach matter? I thought championships mattered?
 
#9
#9
I've never been a Fulmer basher, but I say if he can't win an SEC champ by 2008 then he should be replaced. I mean ten years without a SEC champ is unacceptable at UT. Plus, our recruiting hasn't been up to par as of late. That's Fulmer's bread and butter or used to be.
 
#10
#10
I have given this some thought and I although I do support Fulmer and Co. I do think that in coming years he will step down and after that has happened I do believe we need a breath of fresh air kinda like coach pearl. new everybody I am sure some would welcome not being under such expectations year in year out
 
#11
#11
volinbham said:
Assume it is next year - program is in good shape talent-wise (as good as it ever is when a coach is forced out).

Why does the coach matter? I thought championships mattered?
Click to expand...
Ohio State had better talent than we do when John Cooper was forced out. Michigan had better talent when Gary Moeller got the heave.
The coach matters for several reasons. For example, if we did something idiotic like elevate Cutcliffe, the window should be two years. Then, he and Hamilton would be fired. If we hire some "up and comer," you have to give them a few years. Otherwise, you shouldn't have hired them.
 
#12
#12
hatvol96 said:
Wasn't that the argument everyone made on Buzz Peterson's behalf?
Click to expand...

I'm not sure to be honest but there's a big difference between taking a chance on a Tennessee basketball coach and a Tennessee football coach.

I'm not totally against a coaching change, but it would have to be the right coach. Be careful what you wish for.
 
#13
#13
Doesn't the boosters have a lot say when someone will get the boot or is that just a rumor? Or who really pays his salary, because I don't think the University could pay him and do all the renovation that it is currently doing
 
#14
#14
OWB said:
I'm not sure to be honest but there's a big difference between taking a chance on a Tennessee basketball coach and a Tennessee football coach.

I'm not totally against a coaching change, but it would have to be the right coach. Be careful what you wish for.
Click to expand...
There's a real simple principle. If you make a change and it doesn't work, make another change. Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake didn't work at OU. However, any suffering from those years is greatly outweighed by the joy of the success under Stoops. The same goes for the revolving door at SC prior to Pete Carroll. If you have an AD that can't hire a quality football coach at UT, you need another AD.
 
#15
#15
hatvol96 said:
There's a real simple principle. If you make a change and it doesn't work, make another change. Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake didn't work at OU. However, any suffering from those years is greatly outweighed by the joy of the success under Stoops. The same goes for the revolving door at SC prior to Pete Carroll. If you have an AD that can't hire a quality football coach at UT, you need another AD.
Click to expand...

I shudder to think about the posts on Volnation while all that takes place...:mf_surrender:
 
#16
#16
Change is never a bad thing but the change needs to be rational and just. An AD never wants to just shoot of the hip, then we would wind up with a Zook, or Les Miles who has the most talented team in the SEC and still has problems but maybe I am overlooking something
 
#17
#17
OWB said:
I shudder to think about the posts on Volnation while all that takes place...:mf_surrender:
Click to expand...
That only occcurs if you assume the negative. Who's to say we don't do what Ohio State did and get it right on the first try?
 
#19
#19
hatvol96 said:
That only occcurs if you assume the negative. Who's to say we don't do what Ohio State did and get it right on the first try?
Click to expand...

Being on this board the past few years, I've come to realize that there are going to be some unreasonable and unrealistic Tennessee fans no matter the outcome.

Like I said before, I'm not against the idea of a coaching change, I'd just rather not see the program become a guest coach program for 4 or 5 years.
 
#20
#20
OWB said:
Being on this board the past few years, I've come to realize that there are going to be some unreasonable and unrealistic Tennessee fans no matter the outcome.

Like I said before, I'm not against the idea of a coaching change, I'd just rather not see the program become a guest coach program for 4 or 5 years.
Click to expand...
I'd rather do that than stick with something that obviously isn't going to get us where we want to be.
 
#21
#21
OWB said:
Being on this board the past few years, I've come to realize that there are going to be some unreasonable and unrealistic Tennessee fans no matter the outcome.

Like I said before, I'm not against the idea of a coaching change, I'd just rather not see the program become a guest coach program for 4 or 5 years.
Click to expand...

Take a fall like Alabama I shudder of the thought, and after this year they might throw Shula off the bridge too sometimes it's just a fifty fifty chance, you come up big or do terrible, but UT will have to face the decision one day in the future
 
#22
#22
To continue the B-ball analogy - the post Devoe period was just such an experience. One year of Pearl and all is forgotten (or is it). But those were some dark decades!
 
#24
#24
volinbham said:
To continue the B-ball analogy - the post Devoe period was just such an experience. One year of Pearl and all is forgotten (or is it). But those were some dark decades!
Click to expand...
But if we adhered to the logic some are expousing, Jerry Green would still be the coach.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top