A&M to announce move to SEC in June?

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hatvol96 said:
Georgia Tech voluntarily chose to leave the SEC because they considered themselves superior to the rest of the league. Any university president who votes to allow that trash back in the league should be removed from their post immediately.
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and they'd bring nothing to the table. The SEC already owns the Atlanta market.
 
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GAVol said:
and they'd bring nothing to the table. The SEC already owns the Atlanta market.
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Exactly...honestly there isn't really another attractive team to bring into the league on the Eastern Seaboard that has the TV market and success combo the SEC would be looking for. Va Tech has the success but not the market. NC ST. would bring in NC market but they are terrible same with Maryland or UVA.

I think the only quality option is adding Oklahoma as well and fortifiying our position in the southwest.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
That's how you see it? aTm = Vandy?
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No, aTm >>>>> Vandy.

But Vandy is the bottom of the food chain in the SEC. If you are going to drop somebody to pick up a good school, why not drop the dead weight and get exponentially better as a league rather than lose another school that actually contributes and is competitive in something.

IMO, the bottom of the SEC is Ole Miss and Vandy. Ole Miss has hot women.
Guess who gets the boot. :wavey:

That being said. I'd rather add TAMU and either VA Tech, Clemson, or NC State.
 
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VolInsider said:
No, aTm >>>>> Vandy.

But Vandy is the bottom of the food chain in the SEC. If you are going to drop somebody to pick up a good school, why not drop the dead weight and get exponentially better as a league rather than lose another school that actually contributes and is competative in something.

IMO, the bottom of the SEC is Ole Miss and Vandy. Ole Miss has hot women.
Guess who gets the boot. :wavey:
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Sorry but your logic fails. There are two reasons that Vandy has never and will never get the boot: GPA and graduation. They boost the rest of the conference so their "bottom feeding" actually keeps the whole conference above water.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
That's how you see it? aTm = Vandy?
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No, I am saying that we only need 12 teams. Miss St and Vandy add nothing to this conference... and never have. Vandy's academics don't count for anything but good PR, and that doesn't even help us because we (The SEC) still have the stigma of being a bunch of dumb, cheating inbreds. Keeping Vandy much long will not help us. I would rather upgrade to aTm than add aTm and keep Vandy to make this a 13 team conference.
 
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VolInsider said:
No, aTm >>>>> Vandy.

But Vandy is the bottom of the food chain in the SEC. If you are going to drop somebody to pick up a good school, why not drop the dead weight and get exponentially better as a league rather than lose another school that actually contributes and is competitive in something.

IMO, the bottom of the SEC is Ole Miss and Vandy. Ole Miss has hot women.
Guess who gets the boot. :wavey:

That being said. I'd rather add TAMU and either VA Tech, Clemson, or NC State.
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Agree with everything except the Ole Miss comment. What has Miss. State ever done for this conference? I would kick them out before Ole Miss. At least Ole Miss has tradition.
 
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GreveHaller said:
Sorry but your logic fails. There are two reasons that Vandy has never and will never get the boot: GPA and graduation. They boost the rest of the conference so their "bottom feeding" actually keeps the whole conference above water.
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So? Who really cares about GPA and graduation rates? The NCAA? Do you really think that the NCAA would punish this conference (considering all of the revenue we bring in) just because we replace Vandy with aTm? All that GPA and graduation rate stuff does is give the conference good PR... or at least, that has been the SEC's stated goal. It doesn't matter... especially if you have talk coming up about paying players in both the SEc and Big-12/10.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
Exactly...honestly there isn't really another attractive team to bring into the league on the Eastern Seaboard that has the TV market and success combo the SEC would be looking for. Va Tech has the success but not the market. NC ST. would bring in NC market but they are terrible same with Maryland or UVA.

I think the only quality option is adding Oklahoma as well and fortifiying our position in the southwest.
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Clemson would add the Upstate of SC, W. NC and the Charlotte market. But in honesty, it isn't about "markets" as much as it will be "program content". Having Clemson and droping Miss State or Vandy will be an attractive line up. Instead of a typical Vandy/Bama game with little interest because Vandy has always been a dud to draw ratings, you would at least draw some interest outside of the SEC footprint nationally with a Clemson/Bama match up.

Program content will be driving this more than "markets". If you have a roster of good teams playing each week, you have a bunch of game for people to watch in Iowa, California, New York that may actually get their interest. Vandy simply doesn't have any national pop because they are losers and haven't done anything of significance since the Prohibition.
 
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GreveHaller said:
Sorry but your logic fails. There are two reasons that Vandy has never and will never get the boot: GPA and graduation. They boost the rest of the conference so their "bottom feeding" actually keeps the whole conference above water.
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Above what water? I keep hearing the academic reasons excuses for Vandy's membership, when the fact is there is no cutoff line, penalty, or even a ranking system for any kind of conference academic rates. As long as each school meets the NCAA's APR requirements there isn't any problem. Vandy's membership is primarily a product of them being a charter member of the league. (Which rightfully should stand for something.)

The SEC was a leader among growth and development of the conferences as players in college athletics. In this time of conference-affiliation roulette and the hoarding of top programs, the SEC should look at all options to maintain their place as the elite athletic conference it is or risk getting passed by other organizations.

As stated before, I would rather keep Vandy AND add the other schools mentioned. I was only speaking to the scenario mentioned in the thread of swapping out a school for TAMU.
 
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No, let's keep Vandy. Guaranteed win every year.
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Vandy actually competes in sports other than football. The same really can't be said for the Mississippi schools. At least, not on a consistent basis.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Agree with everything except the Ole Miss comment. What has Miss. State ever done for this conference? I would kick them out before Ole Miss. At least Ole Miss has tradition.
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I actually had State in there first but swapped it out. They have a tradition in baseball and are competitive in basketball. Ole Miss does have a great tradition in football, I wasn't trying to belittle that at all...just wanted to make the quip about the hot ladies in the Grove :thumbsup:

To be fair, Vandy does have somewhat of a tradition in basketball and are quickly building one in baseball too. Like I said, I would rather keep them and expand to 14.
 
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While I understand the sentiment of wanting the very toughest and best conference in college football, I feel that some of the moves that are desired here would eventually lead to national irrelevance for the SEC. Destroying the Big XII, would lead to Texas dominance. Like others have stated, Texas does not need a conference to maintain its current revenue base. It does not need a conference to recruit. An independent Texas, or a Texas in a Big XII w/out OU and/or A&M, is a perennially undefeated Texas. An SEC with OU and A&M, is an SEC that would rarely produce an undefeated champion.

I think it is in the best interest of the SEC to push other conferences to be more competitive. The SEC should be pressuring the Big XII to fill the void created by Nebraska's absence with another decent football school (Iowa), should be pressuring Notre Dame to join the BigTen (if that is even possible, considering ND's independent revenue sources), and should be pressuring the non-BCS, competitive teams (Boise, Utah, etc.) to work their way into a BCS conference.

The best situation for the SEC would be to see every major conference with twelve teams and a championship game. Adding extra conference opponents, creates an extra conference game, and gets rid of either a bigger pay-off, nationally-relevant non-conference matchup during the season, or gets rid of an "automatic win" non-conference game. Neither of these, IMO, would be good for the SEC, if the SEC wants to continue to produce National Champions.
 
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GAVol said:
and they'd bring nothing to the table. The SEC already owns the Atlanta market.
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I love how some folks don't believe that Atlanta is aleady an SEC market. Even leaving the Bulldogs out of it, Atl is like the United Nations of SEC cities.
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AJeray4TN said:
It's about expanding to bigger television markets. Yes, it would add a lot. I think you're under stating the importance of expanding to a new audience. Bottom line, the conference/schools get a dollar amount for each new television set they reach. Adding Texas would be huge.
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I know this is late, but I guess I should clarify that I don't doubt that adding A&M would be beneficial for the SEC financially (however I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make). I'm not sure how much it will improve the quality of Tennessee athletics and SEC athletics in general. I hope there's no change unless it's guaranteed the cross divisional rivalry will be kept. To be honest, if there is divisional changes, I'd love to see Tennessee and Alabama in the same division (although I doubt that would actually happen).
 
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My wish:

In: UNC, Duke, Miami, FSU.

Out: South Carolina, Vandy, Arkansas, Miss. St.
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TXVOL07 said:
So you dont care about winning Basketball and Baseball games? Cool.
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Are you talking Tennessee or the conference? The conference would win plenty of basketball games with UNC and Duke. If you were talking about Tennessee, well, we don't win baseball games anyway.
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
Are you talking Tennessee or the conference? The conference would win plenty of basketball games with UNC and Duke. If you were talking about Tennessee, well, we don't win baseball games anyway.
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add those schools and you wont win basketball either.
 
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