Abortion Rights

[Roustabout]

Roe v. Wade was the most brilliant decision ever. Solomon like.

You should read the testimony of Jane Roe.

 

[apevol]

You should read the testimony of Jane Roe.

Do you remember deputy fife? Posted often a few years ago.

 

[golfballs]

I kind of already did.

I said..if a worthless junky doesn't kill a tiger, they're not gonna spend the next 18 years ****ing the tiger's life up.

This is not a explanation. This is a bizarre analogy.

 

[apevol]

This is not a explanation. This is a bizarre analogy.

Can you make an actual explanation

You made the analogy. I followed it.

 

[Roustabout]

Do you remember deputy fife? Posted often a few years ago.

One of only two posters I ever blocked.

 

[apevol]

One of only two posters I ever blocked.

For a while, I thought luther was him.

 

[therealUT]

Based on what? What reason would I have to consider your definition of personhood anything other than arbitrary?

You don't have to. But, if you think that human DNA is just inherently special, that sounds pretty arbitrary.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Are they?
Why is your concept right and mine wrong?

I'm asking you. Your response seemed as if the lack of objective grounding indicated anything at all. So what?

 

[CABVOL]

Do you believe if someone kills a woman they dont know is pregnant that they should be charged with two counts of murder?

I believe they should be.

 

[apevol]

I believe they should be.

Then you don't even adhere to law.

 

[Orangeburst]

Roe v. Wade was the most brilliant decision ever. Solomon like.

You ever watch a scan of what happens during an abortion you f stick. As the instrument goes, so goes the pain, and I wish it upon you and your pretentious ideology for the helpless.

 

[CABVOL]

Then you don't even adhere to law.

Adhere to which law?

 

[golfballs]

You made the analogy. I followed it.

No I didn’t make an anology at all. These are two positions that a sizeable percentage of democrats have. So I’d like to know the rationale behind it

 

[luthervol]

Do you believe if someone kills a pregnant woman then that person should be charged with two counts of murder?

No. But I certainly acknowledge the differences between if the murdered woman was 2 days pregnant or 9 months pregnant.

 

[Roustabout]

I'm asking you. Your response seemed as if the lack of objective grounding indicated anything at all. So what?

Exactly, so what?

As a theist I have a reasonable expectation that moral truth is grounded in something apart from my opinion or even collective opinion.

 

[Roustabout]

You don't have to. But, if you think that human DNA is just inherently special, that sounds pretty arbitrary.

So....., Based on what?

 

[Squints]

Do you believe if someone kills a woman they dont know is pregnant that they should be charged with two counts of murder?

Two and half years ago, my wife was rear ended at high speed on I-40W in Knoxville (totaled the vehicle and practically put the trunk in the backseat), near MM385. At the time, she was 7 months pregnant. If something had happened to her or my unborn son, due to whatever the **** prevented this kid from operating a vehicle safely, should he be given a mulligan because he didn’t know?

He would’ve known and I would’ve been in the pen. We can debate laws and philosophy until the Holsteins come home to get their teets milked, but I have a more personal association to this than most anyone here.

 

[luthervol]

For a while, I thought luther was him.

Are you truly sure that I'm not?

By the way, I have no clue who you're talking about, but I gather he must have been a genius.

 

[apevol]

Adhere to which law?

Well, any.

How do you murder someone you dont know exists?

 

[Roustabout]

Well, any.

How do you murder someone you dont know exists?

So vehicular homicide requires you knowo the victim?

I think you are speaking to intention.

 

[apevol]

Two and half years ago, my wife was rear ended at high speed on I-40W in Knoxville (totaled the vehicle and practically put the trunk in the backseat), near MM385. At the time, she was 7 months pregnant. If something had happened to her or my unborn son, due to whatever the **** prevented this kid from operating a vehicle safely, should he be given a mulligan because he didn’t know?

He would’ve known and I would’ve been in the pen. We can debate laws and philosophy until the Holsteins come home to get their teets milked, but I have a more personal association to this than most anyone here.

Ok.

 

[apevol]

So vehicular homicide requires you knowo the victim?

I think you are speaking to intention.

Homicide doesnt constitute murder.

 

[golfballs]

?

 

[apevol]

Are you truly sure that I'm not?

By the way, I have no clue who you're talking about, but I gather he must have been a genius.

I liked him. I like you.

He was not a genius.

He was a smart kid with a LOT to learn.

 

[Roustabout]

Homicide doesnt constitute murder.

Sure it does. Terminology.

Murder with intent versus murder without intent.

Abortion is intentional. The intent is to destroy the future reality of the unborn.