Abortion: Should Rowe vs Wade be Overturned?

Should Rowe vs Wade be overturned?

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#26
#26
Sorry Allvol123....I am a older man and thought I was doing pretty good on a computer. I lost a granddaughter to something call SJS.....and I guess I reacte negative to the word "abortion?.....sorry i miss read your remark.
 
#28
#28
Everytime I see this bumper sticker it gets me thinking...

If you can't trust them with a choice, how can you trust them with a child?
 
#29
#29
i can't see how people think that a fetus isn't a human. especially after the advancements of technology. being able to get detailed looks at a fetus is pretty amazing.
 
#30
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jakez4ut said:
personally, i'm against abortion. however, i am not a woman, and ultimately, it's not up to me. it's her body and her decision, and she is the one that will have to live with it.
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i never really understand that. i know it's her choice, but how many laws, state and federal, that keep us from making choice concerning our bodies. if i wanted to sell a kidney, i should be able to, but it's against the law. how can tell someone i can't sell a kidney to save a life and to make a few bucks but they can allow someone to suck the brains out of a baby.
 
#31
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jakez4ut said:
personally, i'm against abortion. however, i am not a woman, and ultimately, it's not up to me. it's her body and her decision, and she is the one that will have to live with it.
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So how about if the father is willing to raise the child independently?

While I'm against abortion, I say that it takes two to make it. The child is as much a part of the father as it is the mother. At the very least it should take two to abort it. I don't believe that ownership should lie with the mother alone for 9 months.
 
#32
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TheDeeble said:
So how about if the father is willing to raise the child independently?

While I'm against abortion, I say that it takes two to make it. The child is as much a part of the father as it is the mother. At the very least it should take two to abort it. I don't believe that ownership should lie with the mother alone for 9 months.
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I agree with that point. I've always thought if it is a woman's right to choose then we should really cut back on ever asking for child support from fathers, they should be able to choose not to care either.
 
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joevol320 said:
i never really understand that. i know it's her choice, but how many laws, state and federal, that keep us from making choice concerning our bodies. if i wanted to sell a kidney, i should be able to, but it's against the law. how can tell someone i can't sell a kidney to save a life and to make a few bucks but they can allow someone to suck the brains out of a baby.
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Just as abortion was once against the law and was overturned; seems like you should work toward getting the kidney selling law overturned like pro-choice people did.
 
#35
#35
let them choose, just don't let them expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.
 
#36
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MG1968 said:
let them choose, just don't let them expect the taxpayers to foot the bill.
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That's why people like joevol will never be happy on this. It's morally wrong to give someone a choice on the issue. But then, if you don't give a choice, he'd fly off the handle about paying for support systems for unwanted new borns.
 
#38
#38
Can I emphatically say that I don't really care, to the extent that one can be emphatic in his apathy?
 
#39
#39
No you can't. Taking the time to tell us how much you do not care precludes you from being able to declare you emphatically do not care.
 
#41
#41
yes, keep expressing your opinion...you have every right to, for you were not aborted! You mother and Dad didn't have you ripped out of her body.
 
#42
#42
It absolutely astounds me that the NOW crowd has been able to make this fringe issue a huge political weapon and essentially THE arbiter in deciding upon our Supreme Court justices.
 
#43
#43
Georgef said:
yes, keep expressing your opinion...you have every right to, for you were not aborted! You mother and Dad didn't have you ripped out of her body.
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is anyone here claiming they were aborted? All we're saying is the mom and dad should have the choice.

Who do you suggest pays for all those unwanted kids? Funny that most Repubs are against both abortions and the social programs that would be required to pay for all these unwanted children.
 
#44
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utvolpj said:
is anyone here claiming they were aborted? All we're saying is the mom and dad should have the choice.

Who do you suggest pays for all those unwanted kids? Funny that most Repubs are against both abortions and the social programs that would be required to pay for all these unwanted children.
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I agree with you to an extent pj but men and women need to be responsible. The reason there are so many unwanted children is because of irresponsible men and women. If you are a woman and you have no plans for kids you need to be on birth control and be responsible in taking it. There are cases of women who take birth control who end up pregnant but the vast majority of those cases are caused by the woman not taking them on a regular schedule.
If you are a man who gets a female pregnant you need to man up and be responsible for the child period. If people were made responsible we would have much less to pay for as taxpayers.
 
#45
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utvolpj said:
Funny that most Repubs are against both abortions and the social programs that would be required to pay for all these unwanted children.
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Yes, as a conservative, I am for personal responsibilty. Don't see the "funny" anywhere. Guess I do not see the "required" as you do.
 
#46
#46
KB5252 said:
I agree with you to an extent pj but men and women need to be responsible. The reason there are so many unwanted children is because of irresponsible men and women.
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People are stupid and irresponsible in every facet of their lives, not just sex. It will never change no matter how many times it's brought up. I actually view the abortion of an unwanted child to be more responsible than having it and forcing me to pay for it.

KB5252 said:
If people were made responsible we would have much less to pay for as taxpayers.
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100% disagree. Add in the number quoted earlier (since jesus-is-savior.com seems unbiased), 48 million, and tell me the strain on the US wouldn't be killing us right now.
 
#47
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allvol123 said:
Yes, as a conservative, I am for personal responsibilty. Don't see the "funny" anywhere. Guess I do not see the "required" as you do.
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required means paid in taxes for the millions and millions of kids that would need to be provided for. If you pay taxes then you already pay for this whether you like it or not. How does that equate to personal responsibility?
 
#48
#48
utvolpj said:
required means paid in taxes for the millions and millions of kids that would need to be provided for. If you pay taxes then you already pay for this whether you like it or not. How does that equate to personal responsibility?
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Don't combine the two as if they are inseperable. Don't take one bad idea and use it as your defense as to why abortion is ok. I can't fix out of control government spending, that being said, it has nothing to do with whether or not I find killing defenseless people to be ok. You taking lessons from Strawgator? So since I do not choose to want criminals, can we just start full scale abortions on them immediately? They sure are costing us.
 
#49
#49
utvolpj said:
required means paid in taxes for the millions and millions of kids that would need to be provided for. If you pay taxes then you already pay for this whether you like it or not. How does that equate to personal responsibility?
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So since we pay more in taxes than we should, we should keep abortion legal? Let's just abort them to keep costs down, right? At what point does life have any value?
 
#50
#50
utvolpj said:
People are stupid and irresponsible in every facet of their lives, not just sex. It will never change no matter how many times it's brought up. I actually view the abortion of an unwanted child to be more responsible than having it and forcing me to pay for it.



100% disagree. Add in the number quoted earlier (since jesus-is-savior.com seems unbiased), 48 million, and tell me the strain on the US wouldn't be killing us right now.
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If women were responsible and used birth control if they didn't want children and men took care of their children that number would be cut dramatically and we would have to pay for fewer kids.
 
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