ACC teams are expected to leave.

#101
#101
RDU VOL#14 said:
I honestly wouldn’t mind WVU being in the league from a culture standpoint. Especially if Virginia Tech joined the league . Tennessee, UK, Virginia Tech and West Virginia would be an interesting Northeastern pod of the SEC. You are right about the banjos though.

Miami has no business being the SEC. AT ALL. NONE.
Click to expand...
Miami should consider the wisdom of breaking up the ACC until they have a landing spot that is an upgrade. They may be bound for the BigXII. They're probably not going to upgrade their Conference.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Volfan1000, tbwhhs and RDU VOL#14
#102
#102
RDU VOL#14 said:
That’s ridiculous. That should played annually just like other SEC teams play their in state rivals that are in different conferences.
Click to expand...
I agree with you and I don’t like it at all. Clemson plays South Carolina every year and don’t share a conference so does FSU and Florida. There is no reason that OU can’t still play OSU every year and keep it going I know Mike Gundy was really upset about losing the game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Volfan1000, SpookyAction, BlinghamptonVol and 4 others
#103
#103
According to what I just heard on Paul Finebaum, it seems like the ACC has reached some sort of agreement and things have mellowed out as far as any of the schools leaving ,and any kind of conference realignment. I wish I remembered who said it.
 
#105
#105
Pennheel said:
According to what I just heard on Paul Finebaum, it seems like the ACC has reached some sort of agreement and things have mellowed out as far as any of the schools leaving ,and any kind of conference realignment. I wish I remembered who said it.
Click to expand...
We’ll see how this is going to work. You’re going to see a lot weaker schedules being made if it’s based on bowl rewards .

IMO it’s just putting a bandaid on a bullet hole . Once these guys all decide that the money is right someone or several will leave and then it will be a domino effect. It sucks that it’s come to this.
 
#106
#106
RDU VOL#14 said:
We’ll see how this is going to work. You’re going to see a lot weaker schedules being made if it’s based on bowl rewards .

IMO it’s just putting a bandaid on a bullet hole . Once these guys all decide that the money is right someone or several will leave and then it will be a domino effect. It sucks that it’s come to this.
Click to expand...

I agree.. Everything seems to be centered around football,and if schools feel slighted for whatever reason,there's immediate talk of changing conferences. While I'm a huge college football fan, I guess I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it coming to the ACC and basketball. I believe there's talented school's in the ACC in football outside of Clemson and Florida St,but the coaching is lacking. (UNC has talent on offense,but defensively they've been bad for the last decade.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: RDU VOL#14
#108
#108
LouderVol said:
ESPN has an article up saying that they will have some type of reward system for teams who do well. Sounds like only the bowl teams will get the bowl money.

ACC officials lean into 'success initiatives' model
Click to expand...
Every time there is a crazy payout to an SEC or B1G team following a football or whatever kind of season you can guarantee that both leagues PR teams are going to blanket social media showing how much each team received bc they were in that league. It will continue to drive a wedge between the upper tier of the ACC and Jim Philips.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Pennheel
#109
#109
Maybe the ACC should go with a system similar to the English Premier league and promote/demote teams into separate groups based on performance.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TrumpedUpVol
#111
#111
dobre_shunka said:
Maybe the ACC should go with a system similar to the English Premier league and promote/demote teams into separate groups based on performance.
Click to expand...

Okay, this is very interesting to me. There have been numerous articles for years about promotion/relegation in college athletics, which just seems very unrealistic, but I am incredibly intrigued by the notion of a single conference having a feeder league and being a pilot for the concept.

I don't think it would succeed, but there is an element of desperation for pretty much every program not in the Big Ten or SEC at this point so it might be something that could be explored.
 
#112
#112
TrumpedUpVol said:
Okay, this is very interesting to me. There have been numerous articles for years about promotion/relegation in college athletics, which just seems very unrealistic, but I am incredibly intrigued by the notion of a single conference having a feeder league and being a pilot for the concept.

I don't think it would succeed, but there is an element of desperation for pretty much every program not in the Big Ten or SEC at this point so it might be something that could be explored.
Click to expand...
this is what I want the other 3 conferences to do. create their own "realm" of football. have a playoff type set up amongst the top teams. Then every 5 years or so have their top handful of teams change out with the bottom teams of the SEC/Big10. do the same with the G5 teams to. Only the Big 2 conferences are eligible for the playoffs. but everyone eligible for the bowl games.

keeps everyone interested without having an expanded playoff. which teams rises or falls. not worried about being inclusive and letting one of the small guys have a guarenteed spot in the playoffs. helps keep those other conferences valid, along with the rivalries. Imagine the backyard brawl with Pitt and WVU fighting to get to the next level. or one of the schools that loses their spot trying to upset someone in the higher conference.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TrumpedUpVol
#113
#113
TrumpedUpVol said:
Okay, this is very interesting to me. There have been numerous articles for years about promotion/relegation in college athletics, which just seems very unrealistic, but I am incredibly intrigued by the notion of a single conference having a feeder league and being a pilot for the concept.

I don't think it would succeed, but there is an element of desperation for pretty much every program not in the Big Ten or SEC at this point so it might be something that could be explored.
Click to expand...
I’ve heard Sankey talk about it more than a few times. He has studied it and I think wouldn’t be opposed to it if right opportunity presented itself. I don’t think it will.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TrumpedUpVol
#115
#115
RDU VOL#14 said:
I’ve heard Sankey talk about it more than a few times. He has studied it and I think wouldn’t be opposed to it if right opportunity presented itself. I don’t think it will.
Click to expand...

Hard to see the right opportunity for this conference, I agree. Not only are there very few schools from which to choose that could potentially be worth more than those presently in the conference or the likely ACC expansion targets (UCF? Houston? Needs to be a massive market, right?), but Vanderbilt and the Mississippi schools absolutely have to be worried that they'd find themselves quickly relegated with no financial, geographic or program-driven opportunity to claw back up (Oldham in the Premier League).

An ACC that loses Clemson/FSU/UVA/VaTech/UNC/Miami to the two superstar conferences, though, might flirt with the idea of chaining itself to the AAC/Sun Belt if the money were right and it could bolster interest in the lower league by virtue of multiple teams having opportunities to jump up and be part of a mega conference. This only works if the landscape doesn't change so as to only allow schools from the future 20+ team SEC and Big Ten super leagues into the playoffs, though, and even then it just seems tough.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Volfan1000 and RDU VOL#14
#116
#116
This topic was discussed in Segments 7 and 8 of the Sports Source yesterday and the majority of the panel wanted Florida State, Clemson and North Carolina in place of Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas.

Texas A&M has already brought the state of Texas into the SEC and Virginia Tech was also mentioned as a possible fit for the conference.

Bob Hodge talked about the conference possibly expanding to 20 universities.

Very interesting discussion.
 
#117
#117
Volfan1000 said:
This topic was discussed in Segments 7 and 8 of the Sports Source yesterday and the majority of the panel wanted Florida State, Clemson and North Carolina in place of Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas.

Texas A&M has already brought the state of Texas into the SEC and Virginia Tech was also mentioned as a possible fit for the conference.

Bob Hodge talked about the conference possibly expanding to 20 universities.

Very interesting discussion.
Click to expand...
Sounds like a terrible idea
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeadVol77, Pennheel, tbwhhs and 3 others
#118
#118
Volfan1000 said:
This topic was discussed in Segments 7 and 8 of the Sports Source yesterday and the majority of the panel wanted Florida State, Clemson and North Carolina in place of Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas.

Texas A&M has already brought the state of Texas into the SEC and Virginia Tech was also mentioned as a possible fit for the conference.

Bob Hodge talked about the conference possibly expanding to 20 universities.

Very interesting discussion.
Click to expand...
Their point to add Clemson and FSU instead of Texas and Oklahoma was that Texas A&M already brought the Texas market? Pretty sure the SEC already has a pretty good footprint in the Florida and South Carolina markets too. You always take Texas, even though they are one of the great underachievers in collegiate athletics you always take Texas. And obviously anyone in their right mind would take UNC over Mizzou, and I (me personally) would love to have Virginia Tech in the SEC. I think VPI is a great fit in the SEC. Much more so than UNC, UVA, Miami, Duke or GT.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: HeadVol77, Voldog1998, Pennheel and 3 others
#119
#119
Miami and FSU joined the ACC for the dollars and because they believed it would create an easier path to get to a playoff should one emerge (which it did).

But both teams underestimated the hit they would take on recruiting and fan interest. The ACC for the better part of the last 15 years -- except for Clemson -- has been a wasteland of also rans. As a whole, the conference has been the very definition of mediocrity, and it took both Miami and FSU down to their level, rather than the other way around.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeadVol77 and VolNExile
#121
#121
Pennheel said:
Outside of the possibility of Virginia Tech(which would be a good fit culturally in the SEC,but as far as a large market is lacking... ) I have to agree. Things are getting out of hand.
Click to expand...
I’m a traditionalist so I hate what they are doing to college football with all the expansion.but yea I figure in a decade or less the SEC will have 20 teams in it
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeadVol77, hog88, Pennheel and 2 others
#125
#125
Pennheel said:
Outside of the possibility of Virginia Tech(which would be a good fit culturally in the SEC,but as far as a large market is lacking... ) I have to agree. Things are getting out of hand.
Click to expand...

VT might have been a good fit culturally 10-15 years ago, now it fits better in the Big10.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top