ACC teams are expected to leave.

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RDU VOL#14 said:
You should see the Raleigh/ Durham area. There are tons of DC transplants that have moved to the area recently.
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Western NC is a lot like that as well. Except replace DC transplants with Florida ones. As far as VT being a cultural fit,I don't know how it is in Blacksburg,but from personal experience and knowing people in the area,Southwest Virginia is very much southern culturally (and I mean that in a good way. I'll be living there soon)
 
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Pennheel said:
Western NC is a lot like that as well. Except replace DC transplants with Florida ones. As far as VT being a cultural fit,I don't know how it is in Blacksburg,but from personal experience and knowing people in the area,Southwest Virginia is very much southern culturally (and I mean that in a good way. I'll be living there soon)
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From right outside Blacksburg, family still lives there and the Blacksburg/Christiansburg blob has lost most of the southern culture. It's an awful place and the cancer is spreading in Montgomery County. Get out of Montgomery County and the Roanoke area and yeah you're right, southwest VA is a beautiful area with great people.
 
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I think Sankey might look at Virginia Tech and North Carolina State to extend the SEC foot print if the ACC implodes.
 
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TrueOrange said:
UNC and UVA would presumably get the first call from both conferences (the SEC and the Big 10). What those two end up deciding really determines a lot as far as how the rest of the realignment ends up playing out.
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I agree. I would think that UNC and UVA would be a more natural fit academically and culturally, however geographically the SEC would give UNC 3 border states and a 4th if UVA came along .
 
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Pennheel said:


Only half-joking,but yeah as a brand,UNC is getting that call first off if that indeed happens. They have way too much to add not to be looked at.
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I’m not exactly thrilled about the idea of them joining either. I’m hoping they’ll find some way to make it all work in the ACC, but I have my doubts that the conference can keep everyone happy, especially FSU and Clemson.
 
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Clemson was the beneficiary of two great quarterbacks in 2016 and 2018 and benefited from their easy ass schedule in the ACC. They are a mid-pack program in the SEC.
 
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UNC and UVA are better fits with the SEC because they are flagship state universities. Even if UNC has run fake classes, I still think we shouldn't exclude them on academic grounds.

I have zero interest in VT or NCSU. They would pull the conference down imo.

Not a fan of expansion but not confident it can be stopped.
 
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I hate expansion, but we have to get the best possible when the time comes.
I have the sinking feeling UNC and UVA will consider themselves more attuned to the B1G culturally.
I could be very wrong, but it is my gut feeling they will play a coy game with both conferences.

I don't feel like VT doesn't works well enough for us, but I could be off-base. NCSt would be like TAMU, pretty good, but not the cool kid in the neighborhood.
 
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Orange. said:
UNC and UVA are better fits with the SEC because they are flagship state universities. Even if UNC has run fake classes, I still think we shouldn't exclude them on academic grounds.

I have zero interest in VT or NCSU. They would pull the conference down imo.

Not a fan of expansion but not confident it can be stopped.
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I think UNC and UVA bring more value to the SEC, but I think from an overall perspective they’re a better fit in the B1G. Despite the fact that they had they’re AFAM program that was indeed a joke, they’re still a very good school. Their commitment to football is questionable, but the basketball program is obviously elite, as well as other non-revenue sports, such as women’s soccer .
 
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SpookyAction said:
I hate expansion, but we have to get the best possible when the time comes.
I have the sinking feeling UNC and UVA will consider themselves more attuned to the B1G culturally.
I could be very wrong, but I think is my gut feeling they will play a coy game with both conferences.

I don't feel like VT doesn't works well enough for us, but I could be off-base. NCSt would be like TAMU, pretty good, but not the cool kid in the neighborhood.
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I think they might SAY that about "culture" to save face; but if they go that way I think it will be because they think it would be easier to win there than in the SEC. In others words, the same reason Miami and FSU chose the ACC when SEC offered back in the day. At least the latter two were more honest (or transparent) about it.
 
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Orange. said:
I think they might SAY that about "culture" to save face; but if they go that way I think it will be because they think it would be easier to win there than in the SEC.
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I don’t know about saving face. I think it’s more that Public Ivies tend to cling to that reputation. They’re in sort of a no-man’s-land between the large private and general public universities.
 
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Orange. said:
I think they might SAY that about "culture" to save face; but if they go that way I think it will be because they think it would be easier to win there than in the SEC. In others words, the same reason Miami and FSU chose the ACC when SEC offered back in the day. At least the latter two were more honest (or transparent) about it.
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I’d love to know the expectations that some of the ADs and fans have that are wanting to potentially leave for the SEC or B1G. UNC nor NC State has won an ACC Championship since the Carter Administration. There’s no way either school could compete for championships in the SEC or B1G
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I’d love to know the expectations that some of the ADs and fans have that are wanting to potentially leave for the SEC or B1G. UNC nor NC State has won an ACC Championship since the Carter Administration. There’s no way either school could compete for championships in the SEC or Big 12.
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See Missouri. Big 8 Champions, 1969
Their wikipedia page claims a CFB National Championship, according to Anderson & Hester (two guys with a statistical system who are 1 of 40 systems CFB uses as selectors), in 2007 at 12-2 ranked No.4 AP and No.5 Coaches.:confused:
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I’d love to know the expectations that some of the ADs and fans have that are wanting to potentially leave for the SEC or B1G. UNC nor NC State has won an ACC Championship since the Carter Administration. There’s no way either school could compete for championships in the SEC or B1G
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The expectation is more money. It's not about winning.
 
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Meh. Let's just absorb the ACC minus Boston College, Syracuse, Notre Dame, and Pittsburgh. Those schools belong in the Big 10. That leaves 11 schools. We dump Mizzou (they can join the Big 10 as well) and convince Vandy and Duke to compete in all sports BUT football which they both suck at anyway. I think that would leave us with a 24-team football conference. And it would keep alive a lot of regional rivals.

Not sure how you would split it into divisions or schedule it, but it would be the first true super-conference.
 
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