Agency to Consider Federal BAN of Gas Stoves Over Health Hazards

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Franklin Pierce said:
Now New York Gov. Kathy Hochul plans to BAN Gas Stoves in new homes and commercial buildings by the end of the decade - to the fury of residents

New York state may see a ban on gas stoves in new buildings and homes by the end of the decade, as officials seek to combat climate change.

Governor Kathy Hochul suggested the move during her state-of-the-state address on Tuesday, while outlining her plan toward 'Achieving the New York Dream.'

'Buildings are the largest source of emissions in our state, accounting for a third of our greenhouse gas output,' Hochul said.

If passed, New Yorkers may see only electric stove tops in new developments by 2030.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul will 'BAN new gas stoves' in the state | Daily Mail Online
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How is most of New York's electricity produced?
 
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Oh, sheep!!! Now I'm worried about what will eventually happen to bean lovers who methane flute.
 
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ButchPlz said:
How is most of New York's electricity produced?
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You probably only have to use 3 cu ft of NG to produce the electric power necessary to replace 1 cu ft used to heat or cook food. These people need to study thermodynamics and learn something about energy transition from one form to another before they start telling people what to do.

We had a pretty workable scheme for producing energy and holding costs down when we used coal, nuclear, and hydro to produce electricity. After the use of coal went away in homes, none of those competed with residential use - coal may have competed in industrial applications for a while - particularly steel production. NG use in homes as a competitor for residential energy helped keep electric and NG rates down. Now that we use NG (and are dumping coal) to produce electricity, that completely changes the equation, and both NG and electric rates will rise as a result.
 
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AM64 said:
You probably only have to use 3 cu ft of NG to produce the electric power necessary to replace 1 cu ft used to heat or cook food. These people need to study thermodynamics and learn something about energy transition from one form to another before they start telling people what to do.

We had a pretty workable scheme for producing energy and holding costs down when we used coal, nuclear, and hydro to produce electricity. After the use of coal went away in homes, none of those competed with residential use - coal may have competed in industrial applications for a while - particularly steel production. NG use in homes as a competitor for residential energy helped keep electric and NG rates down. Now that we use NG (and are dumping coal) to produce electricity, that completely changes the equation, and both NG and electric rates will rise as a result.
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One of the dumber things I think we’ve done is close all the trash to energy (steam plants). Now we’re just filling up the landfills with stuff we could burn for electricity.
 
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AM64 said:
You probably only have to use 3 cu ft of NG to produce the electric power necessary to replace 1 cu ft used to heat or cook food. These people need to study thermodynamics and learn something about energy transition from one form to another before they start telling people what to do.

We had a pretty workable scheme for producing energy and holding costs down when we used coal, nuclear, and hydro to produce electricity. After the use of coal went away in homes, none of those competed with residential use - coal may have competed in industrial applications for a while - particularly steel production. NG use in homes as a competitor for residential energy helped keep electric and NG rates down. Now that we use NG (and are dumping coal) to produce electricity, that completely changes the equation, and both NG and electric rates will rise as a result.
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And all discussions of electric pretty well ignore the resistance losses resulting in pushing electricity through hundreds of mile of wire to get it to the consumer. Fossil fuels get transported intact with every joule of stored energy is available to the end user. Electricity loses efficiency with every mile moved.
 
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And all discussions of electric pretty well ignore the resistance losses resulting in pushing electricity through hundreds of mile of wire to get it to the consumer. Fossil fuels get transported intact with every joule of stored energy is available to the end user. Electricity loses efficiency with every mile moved.
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Stop with that nonsense and trust the science!
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
No, he didn't. Obama's military budget was by far the largest in history and we should be cutting military spending. Not increasing it.
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Where that budget was spent was detrimental to our ability to function as a military. Trump had a lot of catch up. This isn't a reflection of the presidential budget but rather the presidential/executive oversight of what was going on the admin side of the military. We don't need to cut budgets in the military, we need to clean house (just like congress) in the top levels of the military to make sure the funding gets to the machines and soldiers vs. the pockets of the top level generals and admirals and the REMFs.

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Then either it wasn’t enough or the Commander in Chief had no clue how to manage the dollars allocated. The military needed to be fixed after his 2 terms.

No. We don’t need to be cutting military spending with Russia invading their neighbors, China threatening to annex and grab territory, the southern border being unmanaged and overrun, and tyrant dictators in China, Russia, and NK pointing their weapons at us. And I assume there are many still chanting “death to America” in the streets of ME countries.
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Franklin Pierce said:
A federal agency will weigh plans to regulate and even ban natural gas stoves in the U.S., a top official said, over research showing a link between harmful air pollutants and the popular household appliances.

U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commissioner Richard Trumka Jr. said in an interview published Monday his agency plans to take action to address the pollutants, which have been linked to asthma and other respiratory issues.

"Products that can’t be made safe can be banned,” he said.

Trumka called the ban on new gas stoves a “real possibility,” and said that given enough public pressure, the agency “could get a regulation on the books before this time next year.”

Agency to consider federal ban of gas stoves over health hazards
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You bought this hook, line, and sinker..hahahaha
 
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hog88 said:
One of the dumber things I think we’ve done is close all the trash to energy (steam plants). Now we’re just filling up the landfills with stuff we could burn for electricity.
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Give it a few years and most of it comes back out of the landfill about half as CO2 and half as methane.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
If we aren't being attacked then no we should not be involved.

Military budget needs to be drastically cut. Along with most other expenditures.
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and if and when we are ever suddenly threatened by a belligerent power, we can just go to Walmart and buy some weapons and logistics capability. It really doesn’t take time or anything to spin up 100 or so divisions 🙄
 
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hog88 said:
Yeah, I see methane collection going on at various landfills and that's a good thing but it's still ridiculous for us to be burring so much trash.
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I thought you were arguing that it’s better to burn trash to make steam? And maybe it is. I was happy to comment about landfill gas because it’s fueling fast growth in my business. We’re seeing more projects making RNG (renewable natural gas) from dairy farms and pig farms these days too.
 
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RavinDave said:
I thought you were arguing that it’s better to burn trash to make steam? And maybe it is. I was happy to comment about landfill gas because it’s fueling fast growth in my business. We’re seeing more projects making RNG (renewable natural gas) from dairy farms and pig farms these days too.
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Sorry meant to be its ridiculous that we are burying so much trash. I think we should be burning as much trash as we can to produce electricity instead of burying it.

I remember my dad being approached back in the 80s about changing the manure pit to a slurry tank so the gas could be captured. I think the company was trying to prove it's concept back then. It's a great thing.
 
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hog88 said:
Sorry meant to be its ridiculous that we are burying so much trash. I think we should be burning as much trash as we can to produce electricity instead of burying it.

I remember my dad being approached back in the 80s about changing the manure pit to a slurry tank so the gas could be captured. I think the company was trying to prove it's concept back then. It's a great thing.
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Interestingly I work a little bit on some projects on the side converting trash to energy. The systems get a ton of interest in the Caribbean, Latin America, and the Middle East, but environmentalists have for some reason sh*t all over it here in the US.

There is virtually no environmental harm out of it. I've learned either that the average leftoid is a total moron that thinks only one type of power is "clean", that they're brainwashed into thinking what's provided by a single handful of industries is all that counts, or both.
 
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