Ainge doing missionary work...

#76
#76
Originally posted by rockydoc@Nov 13, 2005 10:41 PM
Right on Duckman. Some of thes guys are still crying because Brandon Stewart left!!!
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You got that right and most of them are the same ones crying for Schaeffer.
 
#77
#77
Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 13, 2005 6:00 PM
yep, i am very serious.
come on flame on me and tell me how dumb i am.

he is much better than the two guys we got.

guaranteed.
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Well, Checkerboard, you certainly picked an appropriate photo. And pic. And motto. "The T.O. of Vol Nation". Nicely done. But...if I may.....

Whereas T.O at least earned a measure of respect with his catching ability, you have earned exactly none with your mindless, borderline psychotic rhetoric about Schaefer(?).

Call him up. Schedule a date. Roll the dice. What the hell, you might get lucky.

It ain't about the QB, hoss....it's about the system.

Yeah, I know...suicide to pick on a "VN Guru".

The truth always hurts somebody.
 
#78
#78
Originally posted by GreyWolf1129@Nov 13, 2005 9:46 PM
Well, Checkerboard, you certainly picked an appropriate photo.  And pic.  And motto.  "The T.O. of Vol Nation".  Nicely done.  But...if I may.....

Whereas T.O at least earned a measure of respect with his catching ability, you have earned exactly none with your mindless, borderline psychotic rhetoric about Schaefer(?).

Call him up.  Schedule a date.  Roll the dice.  What the hell, you might get lucky.

It ain't about the QB, hoss....it's about the system.

Yeah, I know...suicide to pick on a "VN Guru".

The truth always hurts somebody.
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hey, i love criticism. if i am wrong then i am wrong. i was just trying to make a point. since no one seems to think schaeffer would of helped us, then i guess i was in the wrong. sometimes i can get out of hand when trying to prove a point but i still find no reason in calling me any type of name for stating what i believe.

remember 500 years ago, everyone knew the world was flat.

so i guess i am wrong about schaeffer. at least i am not backing down from what i believe or think.
 
#80
#80
Not to say one way or another how BS would have been had he stayed here but I seriously doubt that he would have had any different effect on this porgram. ST stink, penalties, attitude, off field actions, etc.

This is an epidemic not a isolated incident with the QB position.
 
#81
#81
but the qb touches the ball every play. u cant win in college football when the qb is horrible. his play sometimes can indirectly effect the whole game. whether it is offense or defense.
 
#83
#83
Originally posted by tidwell@Nov 13, 2005 10:45 PM
Add me to the "Wish UT still had Schaeffer" crowd.
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omg. i have a supporter. thank u tidwell.

i thought my using to as a moniker was never gonna get me anywhere. but i got one. lol.
 
#84
#84
Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 13, 2005 10:47 PM
omg. i have a supporter. thank u tidwell.

i thought my using to as a moniker was never gonna get me anywhere. but i got one. lol.
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Add me on the list too. Acutally, Schaeffer was not the only one involved in the fighting incident that occured. Brett Smith was also involved, but he is still on the team, and still playing games. I have seen alot of strange things happen at UT while I was there as it relates to player discipline. Every now and then, some one has to be an example. Saying that, I honestly believe the staff wanted him gone to eliminate the QB controversy that would arrive since Fulmer wants so desperately for Ainge to be a star.

Schaeffer has a load of talent, and I believe with the right QB coach he could have been a very dangerous weapon for us. Let's face it, athletic QB's are in. Look at Vince Young at Texas. He will take the Longhorns to the promise land, and probably defeat USC. The game now has increased in speed, since I've been in college, that it is a must that you have a very mobile QB.

UT is so stuck in tradition, and at times it makes me sick. Don't get me wrong, tradition is good to a certain degree. However, if you don't change with the times, you will remain on the bottom rung of evolution. I am a high school coach, and I preach that all of the time. Again, I liked the kid, and I believe with proper coaching he could have been another Vick. I know alot of yall out there don't like Vick because he is Mr. NFL right now. God bless that brother.
 
#85
#85
brent was a punk and a clown. he was given multiple chances. he never went to meetings, missed curfew, got in fights....etc.....

he was given plenty of chances.......
 
#86
#86
Originally posted by tidwell@Nov 14, 2005 1:15 AM
Add me to the "Wish UT still had Schaeffer" crowd.
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Add me to the "Wish UT never allows Schaeffer to return" crowd. We don't need the same slime that covers Bammers on our program. :bad:
 
#87
#87
Originally posted by patrick@Nov 14, 2005 8:45 AM
brent was a punk and a clown.  he was given multiple chances.  he never went to meetings, missed curfew, got in fights....etc.....

he was given plenty of chances.......
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Leonard Little was involved in the same activities. As a matter of fact, he tried to start fights just about at every party, but we he was never kicked off.

And dont get emotional and start calling names. Not very becoming.
 
#88
#88
Originally posted by Vol67@Nov 13, 2005 8:05 PM
He is a better runner but not passer.
1. he has no feel for pressure
2. when he gets the ball he looks to run first pass as a last resort.
3. He is more athletic than Clausen or Ainge but he is not better.
4. He only had 8-10 plays to learn as a Freshman and couldn't remember all of them.
5. Schaeffer was the epitamy of what is wrong at UT.
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6. Weak armed lefty reminiscent of Rick Clausen.
 
#89
#89
Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 14, 2005 8:52 AM
6. Weak armed lefty reminiscent of Rick Clausen.
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A weak arm can be corrected, if you have a excellent position coach and strength training. I am most interested in accuracy, and where is the accuracy of Ainge?
 
#90
#90
Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 13, 2005 10:41 PM
but the qb touches the ball every play. u cant win in college football when the qb is horrible. his play sometimes can indirectly effect the whole game. whether it is offense or defense.
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Mobility doesn't = good QB. Pocket passer doesn't = bad QB.

Because Ainge isn't playing well is not an indictment against pro-style QBs. Would you rather the best EVER scrambling QB in Michael Vick or Peyton Manning right now?

Now, if you can find any Steve Youngs out there, I'd really like one of those...but Montana was still better.

Brent Schaeffer is playing well against those HS teams, but that doesn't mean a whole lot right now. Would I like to have him as an option? You bet.
 
#91
#91
Originally posted by vol75@Nov 14, 2005 8:56 AM
A weak arm can be corrected, if you have a excellent position coach and strength training. I am most interested in accuracy, and where is the accuracy of Ainge?
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Considering this is his last year if it isn't corrected by now there's no hope. At least with Ainge there is hope and time. Clausen had his chance to master and conquer. He's learned from two good systems. Still despite all of this he's still got the weak arm and little production to show for it.
 
#92
#92
Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 14, 2005 9:03 AM
Considering this is his last year if it isn't corrected by now there's no hope. At least with Ainge there is hope and time. Clausen had his chance to master and conquer. He's learned from two good systems. Still despite all of this he's still got the weak arm and little production to show for it.
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I can roll with that. However, as a coach, I already know this and I will now try to work the playcalling around his talent level. That is what good coaches do. We high school coaches do it all the time.
 
#94
#94
Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 14, 2005 9:03 AM
Considering this is his last year if it isn't corrected by now there's no hope. At least with Ainge there is hope and time. Clausen had his chance to master and conquer. He's learned from two good systems. Still despite all of this he's still got the weak arm and little production to show for it.
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OK. I sometimes get confused on where you're coming from.

Simple question: Who do you think gives us a better chance to win our last games, RC or EA?
 
#95
#95
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 14, 2005 10:03 AM
OK.  I sometimes get confused on where you're coming from.

Simple question: Who do you think gives us a better chance to win our last games, RC or EA?
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I think Ainge confidence and his ability to read defenses are major issues. I would go with Rick.
 
#96
#96

http://www.tricitiessports.com/default.asp...ssports&he=.com

Here's a short piece from it:

With two games left in the regular season, Clausen's statistical edge is clear. He has a quarterback rating of 123.94 to a dismal 73.54 for Ainge. Clausen is 109-for-184 (59.2 percent) for 1,316 yards and 5 TDs with 4 interceptions, while Ainge is 49-for-120 (40.8 percent) with just 3 TDs and 7 interceptions.

And so much for Clausen not being able to throw the long ball. He stood on the 45-yard line and hit Josh Briscoe three yards deep in the end zone for Tennessee's first score in the game. That's 48 yards. To me, that's throwing a deep ball. If anything, Ainge is the one having trouble in that regard. His interception was an underthrown deep ball that the defender came back to catch.
 
#98
#98
fulmer wants so bad for ainge to do well. That is why he keeps going back to him. I think this was the final straw and he should just start RC the rest of the year. I am really tired of the musical chairs. Fulmer needs to swallow his pride on this one. HE let RS coach too long and now he is doing the same thing with EA this season.
 
#99
#99
"The game now has increased in speed, since I've been in college, that it is a must that you have a very mobile QB."


Tell that to Pete Carroll.
 
#100
#100
Originally posted by vol75@Nov 14, 2005 8:39 AM
The game now has increased in speed, since I've been in college, that it is a must that you have a very mobile QB.
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Do you think the college game is faster than the NFL? If not, I think your conclusions are wrong.

Look at the great teams and offenses in the NFL. Against good talent, a QB needs to be a passer and a game manager.

John Elway
Kurt Warner
Tom Brady
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Brett Favre
Troy Aikman
Steve Young

See anything in common with those guys? The better the defenses, the MORE emphasis is on PASSING and game management than mobility.
 
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