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Rasputin_Vol said:
Anyone with common damn sense can see the cops have crossed the line and become far too aggressive and overzealous in enforcing the pettiest of laws.
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Look back to the 9/11 kneejerk and pawning off military stuff on police departments - that took the "civil" out of law enforcement. There don't seem to be easy answers much less easy questions in this regard, but I'm unconvinced that police departments need SWAT and armored cars unless it's an effort to go into a gang controlled neighborhood and clean it out like a military operation - and that isn't happening.
 
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AM64 said:
Look back to the 9/11 kneejerk and pawning off military stuff on police departments - that took the "civil" out of law enforcement. There don't seem to be easy answers much less easy questions in this regard, but I'm unconvinced that police departments need SWAT and armored cars unless it's an effort to go into a gang controlled neighborhood and clean it out like a military operation - and that isn't happening.
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The only answer I have is to get out of the cities.
 
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AM64 said:
Look back to the 9/11 kneejerk and pawning off military stuff on police departments - that took the "civil" out of law enforcement. There don't seem to be easy answers much less easy questions in this regard, but I'm unconvinced that police departments need SWAT and armored cars unless it's an effort to go into a gang controlled neighborhood and clean it out like a military operation - and that isn't happening.
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In fairness most of those grants for that equipment were due to feds having overstock of stuff and police agencies not being able to afford firearms and vehicles bc of city and county budget issues
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
In fairness most of those grants for that equipment were due to feds having overstock of stuff and police agencies not being able to afford firearms and vehicles bc of city and county budget issues
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I can certainly understand that part. My issue has to do with the escalation, and how it has happened as much as anything. How did we get to a point where armored cars for police departments are even considered anywhere on the scale of reasonable? That seems to point to a big breakdown in society which seems frankly beyond civil policing, and that's a huge warning sign and wakeup call.
 
#832
#832
So just today heard that the little punk had a warrant for assault & robbery of two women at Gunpoint.

Why was the media trying to keep that quiet?🤔

Like I said before had he followed orders and not tried to escape he would be alive, in jail but alive.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
So just today heard that the little punk had a warrant for assault & robbery of two women at Gunpoint.

Why was the media trying to keep that quiet?🤔

Like I said before had he followed orders and not tried to escape he would be alive, in jail but alive.
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Obey. Or else.
 
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AM64 said:
Look back to the 9/11 kneejerk and pawning off military stuff on police departments - that took the "civil" out of law enforcement. There don't seem to be easy answers much less easy questions in this regard, but I'm unconvinced that police departments need SWAT and armored cars unless it's an effort to go into a gang controlled neighborhood and clean it out like a military operation - and that isn't happening.
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I think goes back even further..... when the cartel shootouts started in Miami the cops knew they were out gunned...that’s when they started upgrading their weaponry .... from what I recall
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think goes back even further..... when the cartel shootouts started in Miami the cops knew they were out gunned...that’s when they started upgrading their weaponry .... from what I recall
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You are probably right about that; I was just going from the point when it seemed the feds were dumping an arsenal on any police department wanting stuff - like telling any kid in a candy store "Take what you want. It's free."
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think goes back even further..... when the cartel shootouts started in Miami the cops knew they were out gunned...that’s when they started upgrading their weaponry .... from what I recall
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Probably didn't help with obama upgrading cartel armories either - good thing they didn't expand it to include military surplus. It takes government to really screw up; and the ones up the food chain, like the feds, to do nuclear level screw ups.
 
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AM64 said:
You are probably right about that; I was just going from the point when it seemed the feds were dumping an arsenal on any police department wanting stuff - like telling any kid in a candy store "Take what you want. It's free."
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I wonder if weapon funding by the gov to certain pol orgs is not already going on. CIA tactics. Sure. maybe paranoia, but what we have witnessed just seems so played and intentional.
I am so pessimistic about our survival as a nation since 911 to be honest. Like a Crescendo.
 
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