Air fresheners are illegal in Minnesota

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rjd970 said:
Was he really pulled over because of an air freshener on his rear view mirror? And three cops were needed for this?
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The back up arrived when it was discovered he had a warrant for an incident with a firearm when he ran from police recently on a different issue
 
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Septic said:
Windshield obstruction laws are marxist?

Do you even know what that word means?

Not having sht all over your windshield should be common sense.
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There are a lot of things that should be common sense, it amazes me the warning labels you see on some products. I sometimes wonder what the people who were the catalyst for those warnings were like. Then I remember I'm likely better off not knowing.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Umm how about not fleeing arrest, why is that difficult for you?
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Fleeing should not be punishable by death. I'm fine with there being a 5 to 10 year term in prison though, especially when you put the public at risk.

Speaking of risk what are those bullets going downrange considered?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Already said he shouldn’t have done it. Still doesn’t warrant killing him. Next “point”?
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You don't really seem to be grasping the "not fleeing" part. You acknowledge that he shouldn't have fled in one sentence then criticize the officer for firing in the next sentence. Once he fled, everything after that decision especially for a known felon believed to be carrying a weapon is secondary. You don't force another human being into making a split second decision about your life and complain when it doesn't end like you wanted it to.
 
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landscapingvol said:
You don't really seem to be grasping the "not fleeing" part. You acknowledge that he shouldn't have fled in one sentence then criticize the officer for firing in the next sentence. Once he fled, everything after that decision especially for a known felon believed to be carrying a weapon is secondary. You don't force another human being into making a split second decision about your life and complain when it doesn't end like you wanted it to.
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No. You simply don’t grasp that a citizen making a poor NONLETHAL choice doesn’t warrant a LETHAL response by the police officer. You are not going to convince anybody here that killing the guy was justified.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No. You simply don’t grasp that a citizen making a poor NONLETHAL choice doesn’t warrant a LETHAL response by the police officer. You are not going to convince anybody here that killing the guy was justified.
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Killing is never justified but happens when you put yourself in poor situations, fleeing in a car from a police officer is a very lethal choice for the driver and innocent bystanders.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Killing is never justified but happens when you put yourself in poor situations, fleeing in a car from a police officer is a very lethal choice for the driver and innocent bystanders.
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Running from the police as a felon AND pulling a firearm instead of a taser out of negligence because you are hyped up are both poor decision making which led to this incident.

Both have a part to play in what happened
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No. You simply don’t grasp that a citizen making a poor NONLETHAL choice doesn’t warrant a LETHAL response by the police officer. You are not going to convince anybody here that killing the guy was justified.
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No one said it does.

It appears right now, everyone agrees she made a mistake.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Running from the police as a felon AND pulling a firearm instead of a taser out of negligence because you are hyped up are both poor decision making which led to this incident.

Both have a part to play in what happened
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From early reports that seems correct.

The use of a taser to stop a fleeing suspect on warrants is completely within reason and will meet most department policies out there. If the officer made a mistake and pulled and then fired the wrong weapon, that might be some form of bottom level negligent homicide.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Running from the police as a felon AND pulling a firearm instead of a taser out of negligence because you are hyped up are both poor decision making which led to this incident.

Both have a part to play in what happened
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Both made choices that played a part in the outcome. But as far as I’m concerned only the officer carries the accountability resulting in the death of the victim here. Again as I’ve said a couple of times now cops just can’t have a day that bad, it’s inexcusable. We can understand how it happened but that isn’t the same as excusing it.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Wow. LMFAO. 😂
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Says the guy who thinks fleeing police officers in a vehicle is a non lethal choice, not sure how killing is never justified is funny? I have never excused what the officer did or didn't do, she will have to live with that but publically hanging her when a known felon continues to make poor decisions is amusing.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Says the guy who thinks fleeing police officers in a vehicle is a non lethal choice, not sure how killing is never justified is funny? I have never excused what the officer did or didn't do, she will have to live with that but publically hanging her when a known felon continues to make poor decisions is amusing.
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You most definitely are soft selling the results of the officers actions 🤡
 
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honestly, i still blame the male officer for not handcuffing him quickly, you just don't hold onto a guy you know has warrants involving a weapon and then half ass decide to search his pocket WHILE your hands have the cuffs in them, and he's resisting....the lack of training with these officers is apparent, and it must be a small department
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Running from the police as a felon AND pulling a firearm instead of a taser out of negligence because you are hyped up are both poor decision making which led to this incident.

Both have a part to play in what happened
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So which one is culpable? I put it on the police for killing someone when it wasn't justified. Sure they both made poor decisions, but we're not paying people driving down the street to make good decisions.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Both made choices that played a part in the outcome. But as far as I’m concerned only the officer carries the accountability resulting in the death of the victim here. Again as I’ve said a couple of times now cops just can’t have a day that bad, it’s inexcusable. We can understand how it happened but that isn’t the same as excusing it.
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Of course she does, the convicted felon bears no responsibility. He is just a golly gee, shucks kind of guy who was just going to buy baby formula for his ill child. Heck, from this point forward we should just let everyone flee from arrest. Innocent people flee from arrests all the time, I did on my way to lunch today.
 
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