‘23 AL DL Hunter Osborne (Alabama commit)

[drvenner]

Not directed at you in particular, but I think that the recruiting sites getting only about 60% right on 5 stars getting drafted is horrible. Remember, there are only about 32 5 stars each cycle and each and every one of those 32 players have been looked at, scrutinized, evaluated, and argued about ad infinitum, for years. They have been evaluated not only on film but first hand at camps and 7 v 7, and all star games. And STILL the recruiting sites somehow completely miss on about half of these 5 star athletes. Not just miss, in that they weren't drafted in the first round, but they weren't drafted at all.

But let's all keep acting like the recruiting sites some high measure of accuracy......

I mean, nothing is perfect. Some guys get hurt. Some guys get in trouble. Some guys pick the wrong school. I don't think 60% is that bad, honestly.

 

[peaygolf]

I mean, nothing is perfect. Some guys get hurt. Some guys get in trouble. Some guys pick the wrong school. I don't think 60% is that bad, honestly.

Exactly
Plus the fact that some just don’t get any better…..they peak in HS and level off, while others improve.
I see it in golf often. Great HS player you think is gonna be “ big time,” and they never get better. Attitude changes and then they get worse.

 

[Danl]

I mean, nothing is perfect. Some guys get hurt. Some guys get in trouble. Some guys pick the wrong school. I don't think 60% is that bad, honestly.

Maybe. I just think that if you were being paid to predict just 32 of a total of 224 draftees, you should be able to consistently do better than 60%.

But that's just me.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

300 lb LB with hand in dirt?
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Good catch! I meant DT.

 

[LittleVol]

300 lb LB with hand in dirt?
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Ray Lewis was 240 lbs.

Levon Kirkland was a 300 lbs LB.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Has Hunter gone back to his mid August timeline?

 

[Joe Dirt]

I don’t think anyone is questioning if RG is one of the best in the game — he is. But we were on the wrong end of the RG cabin treatment for a decade+, so I think it’s fair to be curious as to why so many big time DLs visit here and commit elsewhere.

 

[butchna]

Ray Lewis was 240 lbs.

Levon Kirkland was a 300 lbs LB.

Played at 220 in college. Was dinged up and didn’t work out at the Combine so he did get up to 235.

Was listed at 240 at the Combine.

 

[BigALWiLson]

I don’t think anyone is questioning if RG is one of the best in the game — he is. But we were on the wrong end of the RG cabin treatment for a decade+, so I think it’s fair to be curious as to why so many big time DLs visit here and commit elsewhere.

No really it is not fair. He was established at those programs. He has been here a little over a year. Again some things take some time. I mean we have morons running around talking about Heupel not being the guy if we don't win 9 to 10 games. Chill out enjoy the ride, we will get there.

 

[Pump Guy]

I don’t think anyone is questioning if RG is one of the best in the game — he is. But we were on the wrong end of the RG cabin treatment for a decade+, so I think it’s fair to be curious as to why so many big time DLs visit here and commit elsewhere.

Hired on one year ago with a new coach, on a losing team under NCAA investigation, having to recruit against Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, and Ohio State?

You raise a really good point.

 

[VolByLaw]

Staying in Alabama, Hunter Osborne is thought to be announcing something here soon. He remains very much silent with both Clemson and Texas feeling good about their position. He has continued to have a good conversation with Tennessee so having a feel in this one is more difficult.

-VQ

 

[Imallvol]

-VQ

Loose lips sink ships, seems going to milk the attention for as long as can, until he gets tired of the phone calls from recruiting services.

 

[MarcoVol]

Loose lips sink ships, seems going to milk the attention for as long as can, until he gets tired of the phone calls from recruiting services.

Or maybe he’s just trying to decide where to play college football. ESD is 5 months away. He doesn’t have to make a decision any time soon if he doesn’t want.

 

[GBO_$]

 

[Adam Sandler]

Booo

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Dabo has such a douchey punchable face.

 

[walkenvol]

Dabo has such a douchey punchable face.

Not even close to the king

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Not even close to the king
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That king has been dethroned.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Dabo has such a douchey punchable face.

Clemson getting ready too see tougher times. JMHO! GBO!!!!

 

[MarcoVol]

Clemson getting ready too see tougher times. JMHO! GBO!!!!

Their recruiting says otherwise

 

[jakez4ut]

Not even close to the king
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[VolFreakJosh]

Their recruiting says otherwise

Big fish in a small pond

 

[Jackcrevol]

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

Clemson getting ready too see tougher times. JMHO! GBO!!!!

One “bad” year at 9-3 all of a sudden means they’re in for some tough times after being head and shoulders above the rest of college football besides Bama for nearly the last decade. They’re not going anywhere anytime soon unfortunately

 

[aaronvol]

You're talking volume - not odds or probabilities. There are only 32 5*s vs about 370 4*s lol. And there are a couple thousand 3*s. So 32 5*s had 1 less drafted vs a couple thousand lol. It seems pretty clear which groups are the best to choose from.

So sure, if we can recruit 100 3-stars instead of a few 5-stars, then it begins to make sense. But you can't.

Probabilities and playing the odds are all that matter. Do you want an 8% chance or a 20% or a 50%? Seems pretty clear.

The Blue Chip Ratio is literally undefeated. There's no debate stars matter.

The whole "misevaluated" thing is optimistic hopefulness - but they are included in the numbers, so it does not change the analysis. I will agree high 3*s vs low 3*s there's going to be a difference. And having an 88 vs 89 is marginally different. I mean, Jalen Smith is 40 spots from being a 4*. Obviously it's all on a spectrum. Which is why we ultimately follow the class ratings, averages, and rankings.

But no matter how chop it up, stars and ratings (to make it more dynamic and less discrete) matter.

Yes. This is common sense. Why we have to post explanations monthly is difficult to understand. 5 is better than 4. 4 is better than 3. You want better players...better chance of winning.