'24 AL EDGE Jordan Ross (Tennessee)

[SweetasSoda]

Who? Where at? I'd love to go ridicule him.

Nevermind. Not so sure calling something a weakness is saying he can't recruit though. Just because you happen to be weak in a certain area doesn't mean you can't do it. Not real sure what he means by what he said though.

#185.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

#185.

I edited my post.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Who? Where at? I'd love to go ridicule him.

Nevermind. Not so sure calling something a weakness is saying he can't recruit though. Just because you happen to be weak in a certain area doesn't mean you can't do it. Not real sure what he means by what he said though.

People do not like to change their minds after they have it made up. There’s some that recently said he can’t get the best players…after getting Nico last year.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

People do not like to change their minds after they have it made up. There’s some that recently said he can’t get the best players…after getting Nico last year.

Guess I've just missed all that. Most people certainly don't believe he can't recruit though.

 

[sjt18]

Gotta be a Vol if Oregons the only comp

Kids are attracted to different things for different reasons. Oregon is a pretty place. It never gets what you would consider "hot" west of the Cascades. I think Eugene is a lot like Seattle/Portland with a little less rain.

Some kids want to get away from home.

I think the choice of UT vs Oregon is pretty distinct. In the end it comes down to what appeals to the kid the most.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Guess I've just missed all that. Most people certainly don't believe he can't recruit though.

It’s annoying. Especially when it’s proven wrong repeatedly and they still have to throw it in when anything negative happens.

 

[sjt18]

So he's bringing up something from 3 years ago like nobody can change their minds? Cool.

I would have to spend time I don't have to find it but there are a couple of posters here that have strongly questioned Heupel's recruiting within the past few months. Maybe BelieveTheHeup93?

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

It’s annoying. Especially when it’s proven wrong repeatedly and they still have to throw it in when anything negative happens.

More than likely just trolls. Nobody who actually pays attention could honestly believe that.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

I would have to spend time I don't have to find it but there are a couple of posters here that have strongly questioned Heupel's recruiting within the past few months. Maybe BelieveTheHeup93?

Dudes like that are just trolling. People don't really think that way. Imo

 

[volbeast33]

Lol literally all your evidence for that argument proves you wrong.

I didn’t give any evidence lol

 

[volbeast33]

I think thats backwards.

Given how much all the recruits’ interviews seem to go back to how much these guys love Heupel, I’d venture to say it’s more likely UCF just lacks the framework to recruit at an elite level and that hamstrung his recruiting efforts while there.

They now have a coach with a national championship under his belt and still only recruit marginally better/even with Heupel’s years there.

I didn’t say anything about UCF…. When we hired Heup….. I read every article and tried to learn as much as I could find…. After looking at everything… I was very excited about the hire. Here is what I consider his strengths and weaknesses:

Strengths:
Great offensive mind
Great at developing a good culture
Trusting his coaches to do their job
People want to work for him
Players/recruits love him
Great at representing our university
Team plays loose and has fun
Weaknesses
Defense but allows coaches to handle their jobs
Penalties but hasn’t seemed that bad at Tennessee
Not a great recruiter/closer

I agree with you that Heup is well liked by recruits and recruits families.. That is not a prerequisite to be a great recruiter… Most above average recruiters are intense finishers and nothing I have heard/read describes Heup as that guy…. I do feel like the support we are getting from administration/NIL is helping his weaknesses turn into strengths and the future is extremely bright on the hill.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I didn’t say anything about UCF…. When we hired Heup….. I read every article and tried to learn as much as I could find…. After looking at everything… I was very excited about the hire. Here is what I consider his strengths and weaknesses:

Strengths:
Great offensive mind
Great at developing a good culture
Trusting his coaches to do their job
People want to work for him
Players/recruits love him
Great at representing our university
Team plays loose and has fun
Weaknesses
Defense but allows coaches to handle their jobs
Penalties but hasn’t seemed that bad at Tennessee
Not a great recruiter/closer

I agree with you that Heup is well liked by recruits and recruits families.. That is not a prerequisite to be a great recruiter… Most above average recruiters are intense finishers and nothing I have heard/read describes Heup as that guy…. I do feel like the support we are getting from administration/NIL is helping his weaknesses turn into strengths and the future is extremely bright on the hill.

I think you found where the disagreement comes in. The great recruiter label gets handed out to intense closers. CJH doesn’t put pressure on to make a hasty decision. He gives them every reason as to why they should want to play for him then wants them to think it through and be sure about their decision. He goes for the intelligent loyal personalities. Reporters and fans are like…he just let them leave campus without giving a commitment. I don’t think he cares what others think. He wants players that want to play for him. Then he takes what he has and puts them in a position to succeed.

 

[AresTheVol]

I didn’t say anything about UCF…. When we hired Heup….. I read every article and tried to learn as much as I could find…. After looking at everything… I was very excited about the hire. Here is what I consider his strengths and weaknesses:

Strengths:
Great offensive mind
Great at developing a good culture
Trusting his coaches to do their job
People want to work for him
Players/recruits love him
Great at representing our university
Team plays loose and has fun
Weaknesses
Defense but allows coaches to handle their jobs
Penalties but hasn’t seemed that bad at Tennessee
Not a great recruiter/closer

I agree with you that Heup is well liked by recruits and recruits families.. That is not a prerequisite to be a great recruiter… Most above average recruiters are intense finishers and nothing I have heard/read describes Heup as that guy…. I do feel like the support we are getting from administration/NIL is helping his weaknesses turn into strengths and the future is extremely bright on the hill.

arion carter recruitment was all CJH

 

[DaddyChad]

I didn’t say anything about UCF…. When we hired Heup….. I read every article and tried to learn as much as I could find…. After looking at everything… I was very excited about the hire. Here is what I consider his strengths and weaknesses:

Strengths:
Great offensive mind
Great at developing a good culture
Trusting his coaches to do their job
People want to work for him
Players/recruits love him
Great at representing our university
Team plays loose and has fun
Weaknesses
Defense but allows coaches to handle their jobs
Penalties but hasn’t seemed that bad at Tennessee
Not a great recruiter/closer

I agree with you that Heup is well liked by recruits and recruits families.. That is not a prerequisite to be a great recruiter… Most above average recruiters are intense finishers and nothing I have heard/read describes Heup as that guy…. I do feel like the support we are getting from administration/NIL is helping his weaknesses turn into strengths and the future is extremely bright on the hill.

Recruiting is sales basically. You can sale a Ferrari better than a Ford Fiesta.

 

[Volbucky]

I didn’t give any evidence lol

Lol exactly. If you look for some it’ll prove you wrong

 

[volbeast33]

Who? Where at? I'd love to go ridicule him.

Nevermind. Not so sure calling something a weakness is saying he can't recruit though. Just because you happen to be weak in a certain area doesn't mean you can't do it. Not real sure what he means by what he said though.

You understand what I meant.

 

[volbeast33]

Recruiting is sales basically. You can sale a Ferrari better than a Ford Fiesta.

True and some salesman can make a fiesta sound like a Ferrari.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

True and some salesman can make a fiesta sound like a Ferrari.

Butch that you?

 

[volbeast33]

arion carter recruitment was all CJH

Didn’t say he couldn’t recruit…. Just that it’s not his strength

 

[volbeast33]

Butch that you?

Butch is a good example of a used car salesman….. worked till he showed that he was a crap human that couldn’t win games consistently.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

You understand what I meant.

Yea I do now.

 

[Volsdeep4]

Butch that you?

Oh god. That dudes stupid voice and stupid flat top

 

[DaddyChad]

True and some salesman can make a fiesta sound like a Ferrari.

Ummm yeah maybe to an idiot.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

Oh god. That dudes stupid voice and stupid flat top

Dude is the epitome of a loser

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

Butch is a good example of a used car salesman….. worked till he showed that he was a crap human that couldn’t win games consistently.

I was officially over him when we lost @fla on a hail mary. dude was a lame. Its kinda embarrassing he was our head coach