Alabama BB Player Arrested

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TNfaninMS said:
Thugs don’t cry, remorseful kids do. Feel bad for the girls family but also have a sense of sympathy for this kid and the other. Sad they took her life and theirs in the process.
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Fake tears don't call for sympathy. These kids knew what they were doing and they need to pay the price.
 
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The video I saw looked to be in or around student housing. It sounded like 12 or so shots..This wasn't an accident where the gun went off. This is young men playing badasses. Now she's dead and he's going to prison.
 
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CAVPUT said:
I viewed his arrest and heard him crying as they were leading him to the car, but I couldn't make out what he was saying. Thought I heard the word "love", but can't be sure. Did those 2 have a history/relationship? Hard to imagine that a rejection could lead a kid to actually shoot a girl for it. Have we come to that point in this society?
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The guy who took the video said Miles was talking to someone who was just off-camera. He was saying "I love you more than you can imagine." I don't know that anyone has identified who he was talking to, at least not publicly.
 
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bamawriter said:
The guy who took the video said Miles was talking to someone who was just off-camera. He was saying "I love you more than you can imagine." I don't know that anyone has identified who he was talking to, at least not publicly.
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Unless he was having some sort of break with reality, I'd have to assume he knew his life was all but over and was saying goodbyes to his family? Just an unbelievable story if rejection is the reason for the shooting. Hard to wrap my head around such insanity.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Unless he was having some sort of break with reality, I'd have to assume he knew his life was all but over and was saying goodbyes to his family? Just an unbelievable story if rejection is the reason for the shooting. Hard to wrap my head around such insanity.
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Completely agree.
 
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I just saw a report. Miles wasn't the shooter it was the 20 year old. I don't expect it to change much besides possible Miles sentence. With them being charged with capital murder the death penalty could be on the table.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
I just saw a report. Miles wasn't the shooter it was the 20 year old. I don't expect it to change much besides possible Miles sentence. With them being charged with capital murder the death penalty could be on the table.
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Apparently Miles handed his buddy the gun right before the shooting started. That clearly makes him an accessory. It also makes him the one the DA is most likely to negotiate with to testify against the other, assuming they are even inclined to do so.
 
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bamawriter said:
Apparently Miles handed his buddy the gun right before the shooting started. That clearly makes him an accessory. It also makes him the one the DA is most likely to negotiate with to testify against the other, assuming they are even inclined to do so.
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I hadn't read that part. Yeah an accessory for sure if not more. I was just thinking if they pursued the death penalty that could save him, but not if he handed the gun to his buddy.
 
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bamawriter said:
Apparently Miles handed his buddy the gun right before the shooting started. That clearly makes him an accessory. It also makes him the one the DA is most likely to negotiate with to testify against the other, assuming they are even inclined to do so.
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In some instances if you provide the means to someone’s end you might as well have pulled the trigger yourself.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Does it seem like this is an open and shut case?
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There are still some facts that need to come out before I would say it's "open and shut." But there are supposedly witness statements and surveillance footage that make it clear that Miles' friend shot first. That would destroy any self defense claim. Absent that, I don't know what the defense could possibly be.
 
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bamawriter said:
There are still some facts that need to come out before I would say it's "open and shut." But there are supposedly witness statements and surveillance footage that make it clear that Miles' friend shot first. That would destroy any self defense claim. Absent that, I don't know what the defense could possibly be.
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Temporary insanity.
 
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While this thread has been an interesting read to say the least, with some people mad at others basically same thing with different verbiage, can’t we all agree that like with the Idaho killer, girls rejecting young men of any race, it is not a good reason for killing them… omg.. we could also throw mental health and objectification of women, and our over sexualized culture in there too.. oh, and the sense of entitlement pervasive in that age group now.. nobody owes anyone anything
 
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livefaith said:
One of the girls fam.posted that these two shot her because she wouldn't talk to them (ie hookup). IF true, my disgust meter doesn't measure that low.
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I saw on the news he also told the girl who was shot after rejecting his advances " do you know who I am"? How could someone be so full of them self ? And how much can be blamed on the culture that disrespects women?
 
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LadyVolette said:
While this thread has been an interesting read to say the least, with some people mad at others basically same thing with different verbiage, can’t we all agree that like with the Idaho killer, girls rejecting young men of any race, it is not a good reason for killing them… omg.. we could also throw mental health and objectification of women, and our over sexualized culture in there too.. oh, and the sense of entitlement pervasive in that age group now.. nobody owes anyone anything
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Well said
 
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volfeeva said:
I saw on the news he also told the girl who was shot after rejecting his advances " do you know who I am"? How could someone be so full of them self ? And how much can be blamed on the culture that disrespects women?
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Unreal and sickening. I'm in the camp where 0% is blamed on some nebulous idea of culture. Culture didn't pull out it's weapon and kill an innocent person.
 
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KB5252 said:
What supposedly led up to this shooting? I think I heard the victim was female? Possible domestic situation?
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One of the news stations here in Atlanta area had a report indicating the female killed had rejected one of the guys doing the shooting.
 
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livefaith said:
Unreal and sickening. I'm in the camp where 0% is blamed on some nebulous idea of culture. Culture didn't pull out it's weapon and kill an innocent person.
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I totally agree. It is for this same reason I do not use and reject and push back against the use of the term "gun violence" in my presence. Guns are tools like knives. Noticeably the murderer of the 4 Idaho State students was/is not being accused of knife violence. It's because knives are tools and do not deliver themselves off of shelves and commit acts of violence. It takes a human being to wield a tool and commit good or bad with it. Firearms are tools and if you or someone in your family has been spared harm due to the proper use of a firearm you know and understand they can be used for good.
 
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Remy said:
I totally agree. It is for this same reason I do not use and reject and push back against the use of the term "gun violence" in my presence. Guns are tools like knives. Noticeably the murderer of the 4 Idaho State students was/is not being accused of knife violence. It's because knives are tools and do not deliver themselves off of shelves and commit acts of violence. It takes a human being to wield a tool and commit good or bad with it. Firearms are tools and if you or someone in your family has been spared harm due to the proper use of a firearm you know and understand they can be used for good.
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Really good post. Truth
 
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