Alabama or OSU in the BCSCG?

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

rmsmith said:
Minus the glaring red flag of iowa state. If they lost to a decent team then id excuse it. But iowa state are the bottom feeders of the big 12

It's really not that glaring. Step back and take a look at everything.

OSU played a tougher schedule, beat more ranked teams than Bama did, and beat more teams with a winning record.

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
When comparing the resumes of Alabama and Okie State, it looks better that OSU actually won their conference.

It is the big 12, it really doesn't.

tvolsfan · Dec 4, 2011

allvol123 said:
It is the big 12, it really doesn't.

Who deserves a chance to prove they're better than LSU? The team who won their conference or the team that already proved they weren't as good as LSU?

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

tvolsfan said:
Who deserves a chance to prove they're better than LSU? The team who won their conference or the team that already proved they weren't as good as LSU?

The team that played LSU to a tie in regulation. And it really isn't close.

volinbham · Dec 4, 2011

allvol123 said:
The team that played LSU to a tie in regulation. And it really isn't close.

But it is close - that's why there's this debate. The BCS #'s will be crazy close. It still goes back to perception.

BTW - good to see you AV123

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

volinbham said:
But it is close - that's why there's this debate. The BCS #'s will be crazy close. It still goes back to perception.

BTW - good to see you AV123

Thanks VBH, you still bring the facts straight up.

But I disagree, we have seen this nonsense for the past 5 years. The top teams in the SEC are playing a different game at this time in history.

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

allvol123 said:
The team that played LSU to a tie in regulation. And it really isn't close.

If you're an SEC homer, maybe. But don't let the facts get in the way.

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
If you're an SEC homer, maybe. But don't let the facts get in the way.

ISU. Embarrassing.

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

The Cotton Bowl has tweeted that they have the only Big 12/SEC matchup.

vols-1 · Dec 4, 2011

CountVolcula said:
SEC will get its 6th NC in a row.

The SEC will finally lose a NC game. Voters wanted to screw the SEC one way or the other.

rmsmith · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
It's really not that glaring. Step back and take a look at everything.

OSU played a tougher schedule, beat more ranked teams than Bama did, and beat more teams with a winning record.

If they had lost to any of those ranked teams it would be a no brainer. But they lost to the kentucky of the big 12

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

allvol123 said:
ISU. Embarrassing.

That's your only argument. OSU has more going for it than against it.

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
That's your only argument. OSU has more going for it than against it.

Given the official results, they don't.

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

rmsmith said:
If they had lost to any of those ranked teams it would be a no brainer. But they lost to the kentucky of the big 12

LSU lost to Kentucky in 07, and they got in. Also, Florida lost at Auburn (not a terrible loss), while Michigan lost to (tOSU) 06. If this were Oregon or WVU, you would totally be against it.

vols-1 said:
The SEC will finally lose a NC game. Voters wanted to screw the SEC one way or the other.

Actually, it's looking like Alabama will get in.

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

allvol123 said:
Given the official results, they don't.

Again, why let facts get in the way?

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
Again, why let facts get in the way?

I believe official results are facts.

bleedorange0037 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
Again, why let facts get in the way?

Good point. You certainly aren't letting the fact that OK St. has an embarrassing loss to a conference bottom feeder stand in your way of arguing that they are better than Alabama.

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

bleedorange0037 said:
Good point. You certainly aren't letting the fact that OK St. has an embarrassing loss to a conference bottom feeder stand in your way of arguing that they are better than Alabama.

Please quote where I said OSU is the better team.

bleedorange0037 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
Please quote where I said OSU is the better team.

IIRC, the stated goal of the BCS is to get the 2 best teams on the field for the NCG. Arguing that OSU deserves to be in the NCG is an argument that they are the second best team in the nation, and thereby, better than Alabama.

I know a lot of people aren't going to be happy with this year's matchup for one reason or another, but it appears that this season the BCS will get the nations two best teams on the field to play for a title. That's validation that the system is working exactly as it's designed to.

rmsmith · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
LSU lost to Kentucky in 07, and they got in. Also, Florida lost at Auburn (not a terrible loss), while Michigan lost to (tOSU) 06. If this were Oregon or WVU, you would totally be against it.

Actually, it's looking like Alabama will get in.

What was osu ranking? I'm assuming light years ahead of kensucky. If so michigan got hosed

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

bleedorange0037 said:
I know a lot of people aren't going to be happy with this year's matchup for one reason or another, but it appears that this season the BCS will get the nations two best teams on the field to play for a title. That's validation that the system is working exactly as it's designed to.

Appears? We have no idea who is better between OSU and Bama. The BCS is a damn farce.

bleedorange0037 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
Appears? We have no idea who is better between OSU and Bama. The BCS is a damn farce.

No, it got the 2 best teams in the nation on the field for the NCG, which is exactly what it was designed to do. Whether or not you want to admit it, the BCS works like a well-oiled machine.

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
Appears? We have no idea who is better between OSU and Bama. The BCS is a damn farce.

You don't. I do.

DarthVisor · Dec 4, 2011

allvol123 said:
You don't. I do.

No, you just lack the objectivity to admit that there is doubt as to who is better between the two teams.

bleedorange0037 said:
No, it got the 2 best teams in the nation on the field for the NCG, which is exactly what it was designed to do. Whether or not you want to admit it, the BCS works like a well-oiled machine.

You have nothing to back any of this garbage up.

allvol123 · Dec 4, 2011

DarthVisor said:
No, you just like the objectivity to admit that there is doubt as to who is better between the two teams.

You have nothing to back any of this garbage up.

No, being a UT fan I've seen a larger amount of quality football than you and can understand the difference between an OSU and an Alabama.

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Alabama or OSU in the BCSCG?

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