Alex Jones found liable over Sandy Hook hoax conspiracy

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Weezer said:
Oh, Trump has zero class. I've read more of the report than Mueller apparently. And I'd put Hillary's corruptness many notches higher on the corruption continuum.
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Exactly my point. One reason why so many people voted against her
 
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hog88 said:
Sorry but that doesn't jive with your argument of why they didn't attempt a prosecution for the meeting.
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1. I didn’t make any “argument of why they didn’t attempt a prosecution for the meeting,” I only gave the explanation provided in the report and
2. That explanation is completely consistent with the purpose and predicate stated in the report.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Well what we know for sure is whatever debate occurs on the results you’ve already declared yourself the victor 🤡
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I doubt there will be any debate since I have no interest in defending Sussman or anybody else involved the way that you trip all over yourself to defend a wannabe dictator.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I doubt there will be any debate since I have no interest in defending Sussman or anybody else involved the way that you trip all over yourself to defend a wannabe dictator.
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LMAO yeah that’s what this is. That’s all that your stupid ass TDS can see. Trump is an asshat but the reaction to his win and subsequent witch hunt that YOU are propping up would bring a smile to lavrentiy beria’s face. 🤡
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
LMAO yeah that’s what this is. That’s all that your stupid ass TDS can see. Trump is an asshat but the reaction to his win and subsequent witch hunt that YOU are propping up would bring a smile to lavrentiy beria’s face. 🤡
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I would be more willing consider that possibility if any of the people saying it could make their case while remaining consistent with objective truth and logic.

You guys keep making it obvious that you’re not familiar with the facts, at best. 90% of the explanations I’ve seen for why it wasn’t justified are inaccurate on the facts, and the remaining 10% try to use the results of the investigation to undermine the predicate, which is unreasonable and illogical.

I know I probably don’t have a perfect recollection of the facts and law, but every time I double check my memory, I’m reassured that my recollection and fund of knowledge on this subject is superior to that of the people who disagree with me. Those same people, when confronted with facts, double down rather than double check. You all continue to insist that things are true, which I know to be false. Couple that with the partisan side-switching when it comes to Sussman etc. and the only rational conclusion is that the TDS accusations are pure projection.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I would be more willing consider that possibility if any of the people saying it could make their case while remaining consistent with objective truth and logic.

You guys keep making it obvious that you’re not familiar with the facts, at best. 90% of the explanations I’ve seen for why it wasn’t justified are inaccurate on the facts, and the remaining 10% try to use the results of the investigation to undermine the predicate, which is unreasonable and illogical.

I know I probably don’t have a perfect recollection of the facts and law, but every time I double check my memory, I’m reassured that my recollection and fund of knowledge on this subject is superior to that of the people who disagree with me. Those same people, when confronted with facts, double down rather than double check. You all continue to insist that things are true, which I know to be false. Couple that with the partisan side-switching when it comes to Sussman etc. and the only rational conclusion is that the TDS accusations are pure projection.
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When it comes to all this political BS, my problem with "the law" is the inconsistency with which it is applied. For example, during the Mueller investigation, threats of pressing charges for lying to Congress were used to leverage people, yet we know Hillary lied to Congress and nothing. There is no consistency in how the law is applied. It's all a joke. So when people talk about "the law" applying to one side while ignoring it not being applied to the other, it's hard for me to take them seriously. I know you have this opinion that my "both sides" view is some kind of act. It's not. But I've seen the left, especially when it comes to the Clintons, ignore the law time and time again. So I'm not a big believer on them getting to decide when laws should matter and who they should or should not apply to. I honestly believe both parties are corrupt and are destroying this country, but I will freely admit, if it were a race, I'd see the left as in the lead. They have twisted the system at every chance. Not that the GOP hasn't tried, they just aren't as good at it, and they don't have the majority of the MSM propping them up and shilling for them.
 
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Weezer said:
When it comes to all this political BS, my problem with "the law" is the inconsistency with which it is applied. For example, during the Mueller investigation, threats of pressing charges for lying to Congress were used to leverage people, yet we know Hillary lied to Congress and nothing. There is no consistency in how the law is applied. It's all a joke. So when people talk about "the law" applying to one side while ignoring it not being applied to the other, it's hard for me to take them seriously. I know you have this opinion that my "both sides" view is some kind of act. It's not. But I've seen the left, especially when it comes to the Clintons, ignore the law time and time again. So I'm not a big believer on them getting to decide when laws should matter and who they should or should not apply to. I honestly believe both parties are corrupt and are destroying this country, but I will freely admit, if it were a race, I'd see the left as in the lead. They have twisted the system at every chance. Not that the GOP hasn't tried, they just aren't as good at it, and they don't have the majority of the MSM propping them up and shilling for them.
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Have you considered that your understanding of the law and facts might be incomplete and that there may be gaps caused by your own admitted willful ignorance that would reconcile different outcomes or under seemingly similar circumstances?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Have you considered that your understanding of the law and facts might be incomplete and that there may be gaps caused by your own admitted willful ignorance that would reconcile different applications of the law in these different circumstances?
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Sure, it's possible. Have you considered your political bias has allowed you to willfully ignore that the law isn't getting applied equally based on partisanship, and you're making excuses for the side you clearly lean toward?
 
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Weezer said:
Sure, it's possible. Have you considered your political bias has allowed you to willfully ignore that the law isn't getting applied equally based on partisanship, and you're making excuses for the side you clearly lean toward?
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Narrator: No, no he isn’t.
 
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Weezer said:
Sure, it's possible. Have you considered your political bias has allowed you to willfully ignore that the law isn't getting applied equally based on partisanship, and you're making excuses for the side you clearly lean toward?
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I have, yes. See post 306.

Tl;dr: People who tend to disagree with my opinions consistently make misstatements of fact to support their own opinions and demonstrate a high degree of partisanship by taking inconsistent positions depending on the individual under suspicion. Therefore I tend to trust that my opinions are at least well informed if not always without anti-partisan bias.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I have, yes. See post 306.

Tl;dr: People who tend to disagree with my opinions consistently make misstatements of fact to support their own opinions and demonstrate a high degree of partisanship by taking inconsistent positions depending on the individual under suspicion.
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I think you're guilty of what you accuse others of doing, seeing what you want to see.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I’d be happy to consider any misstatements of fact or inconsistencies that you’d like to quote from the statements I have made in support of my own opinion.
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Do you have any posts where you've called out Democrats for not consistently applying the law to their own people? Specifically Hillary if you want me to narrow the field.
 
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Weezer said:
Do you have any posts where you've called out Democrats for not consistently applying the law to their own people? Specifically Hillary if you want me to narrow the field.
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Doesn’t this just ultimately get to whether I share your opinion about the law being applied inconsistently? If I don’t think that’s a good opinion, why would I have called out Democrats for not applying the law consistently to their own people?

Moreover, WHEN would I have done so? I’ve only been active in this forum for three years, Democrats have only controlled DOJ for about 1/4 of that time. Any application of the law to Hillary Clinton during that time would have been done by Republicans.

The application of law in this case was Republican DOJ, Republican Congress, Republican senate, and Republican suspects and I’m saying it was an appropriate investigation.

This seems nonsensical and even discounting the fact that you’re asking me to support your own opinion, it’s not a very good start.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Doesn’t this just ultimately get to whether I share your opinion about the law being applied inconsistently? If I don’t think that’s a good opinion, why would I have called out Democrats for not applying the law consistently to their own people?

Moreover, WHEN would I have done so? I’ve only been active in this forum for three years, Democrats have only controlled DOJ for about 1/4 of that time. Any application of the law to Hillary Clinton during that time would have been done by Republicans.

The application of law in this case was Republican DOJ, Republican Congress, Republican senate, and Republican suspects and I’m saying it was an appropriate investigation.

This seems nonsensical and even discounting the fact that you’re asking me to support your own opinion, it’s not a very good start.
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You only ever call out one side, and tend not to comment when the shoe's on the other foot.
 
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Weezer said:
You only ever call out one side, and tend not to comment when the shoe's on the other foot.
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This is not entirely true, but to the extent that it’s mostly true with respect to my posts here, I’m aware of it, have accounted for it in my thoughts on whether I might be overly biased, and have explained it at least once. (I actually believe I explained it a second time… to you.)

Is there anything else?
 
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The outrageous double standard is what makes many people angry. Frankly, the rotten corrupt DC leadership of both parties exhibit as much or more infidelity everyday before their 3 hour lunches and are never held accountable and certainly not under some stupendous $40M investigation. They are the hypocrites.

Blind eyes towards Big One's 10% (remember he said he never met Hunters associates, that was a lie) , Biden's artwork...heck too many to count.
 
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Look at someone like a Swallwell and his actions and where he is today. The same man who accused Trump of conspiring with a foreign gov. Talk about karma. The Schiff takes a phone call from those hackers to get dirt on Trump, all the while trying to impeach the President.
DC is one corrupt disgusting place. There are laws, but unequal applications of the law.
 
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