Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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AM64 said:
Let's see if he can somehow manage "titillating" and "scintillating" to describe AOC. I'm thinking "sepsis" might actually cover both Septic and AOC.
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“Peptic”

How I would describe her effect on me.
 
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joevol33 said:
She is, but apparently that's popular today. I mean to the left, their hero men dress up as vaginas.
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The thing is that in a competition where the nuttiest wins, nobody is the winner; but don't try explaining it to a lib. Libs play the "drag you down to their own special level of idiocy" game and beat you with experience.
 
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shotgun83 said:
Honestly, she's way in over her head. She doesn't know anything about policy, economics, political theory, or foreign policy. Which makes it funny poking fun at her.

She sees "bad me no like!", "you hurt, give you free stuff", or those who earn everything they've built as being greedy.. are some? Absolutely! But she's applying her experiences in life to everyone.

For her, everything should be roses and daisies. She's idealistic and doesn't have the wherewithal to learn for herself.

She's already been slapped on the wrist a few times (i.e. threatening to abuse her ppwer and pull trump's kid into a hesring for maing fun of her) and the quiet stink for the money given to her boyfriend (abusing the system she claims to abhor).
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How can she even spin causing Amazon to leave as being a good thing? It seems like that happening is a sign of causing real damage. It was funny at first, but something like that happening is not funny.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Close enough to her constituency that the jobs and housing market would have been affected.
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People typically don't think about second and third order effects. AOC knows her audience and voters. She wouldn't be hammering the "Amazon bad" angle if she didn't think it was to her benefit.
 
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05_never_again said:
People typically don't think about second and third order effects. AOC knows her audience and voters. She wouldn't be hammering the "Amazon bad" angle if she didn't think it was to her benefit.
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I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in 2020.

And all the glorious stupidity that'll come from her in the mean time.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in 2020.

And all the glorious stupidity that'll come from her in the mean time.
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She'll be re-elected overwhelmingly, both in the Dem primary and in the general election.

Even if other more establishment or moderate Dems don't like her on Capitol Hill because she doesn't play nice, the Dem Party still needs her. She energizes the base. They want to have figures like her associated with the image of the party; they just don't want her to have any actual real power.
 
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Electric Orange said:
How can she even spin causing Amazon to leave as being a good thing? It seems like that happening is a sign of causing real damage. It was funny at first, but something like that happening is not funny.
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You have to think like a far-left progressive instead of like a reasonable person. To you, and to a lot of other people (even left of center people in NYC), it is a bad thing. But think like AOC's base does.

AOC's message is that the system is unfair and rigged by large corporations. They don't pay their "fair share" and government is the solution. She was elected by people who responded to that message and had it as a #1 priority. Just over a month into office, she was able to join a chorus of voices critical of Amazon, a gigantic company run by the world's richest man. The epitome of an easy target for her base. Joining that chorus of voices was the logical, no-brainer thing for her to do. If AOC was supportive of Amazon, or said nothing about it, she'd stand to get accused by her base of already being a sell-out to large corporations and risk getting run out of town on a rail.

The negative effects of this (fewer jobs, less tax revenue, etc.) are not immediate. It will play out over many years, during which her base will 1) largely forget about this and 2) allow AOC to pivot onto a new grievance.
 
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05_never_again said:
She'll be re-elected overwhelmingly, both in the Dem primary and in the general election.

Even if other more establishment or moderate Dems don't like her on Capitol Hill because she doesn't play nice, the Dem Party still needs her. She energizes the base. They want to have figures like her associated with the image of the party; they just don't want her to have any actual real power.
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I wouldn't make that bet...
 
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05_never_again said:
You have to think like a far-left progressive instead of like a reasonable person. To you, and to a lot of other people (even left of center people in NYC), it is a bad thing. But think like AOC's base does.

AOC's message is that the system is unfair and rigged by large corporations. They don't pay their "fair share" and government is the solution. She was elected by people who responded to that message and had it as a #1 priority. Just over a month into office, she was able to join a chorus of voices critical of Amazon, a gigantic company run by the world's richest man. The epitome of an easy target for her base. Joining that chorus of voices was the logical, no-brainer thing for her to do. If AOC was supportive of Amazon, or said nothing about it, she'd stand to get accused by her base of already being a sell-out to large corporations and risk getting run out of town on a rail.

The negative effects of this (fewer jobs, less tax revenue, etc.) are not immediate. It will play out over many years, during which her base will 1) largely forget about this and 2) allow AOC to pivot onto a new grievance.
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Sounds like a cult
 
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Electric Orange said:
How can she even spin causing Amazon to leave as being a good thing? It seems like that happening is a sign of causing real damage. It was funny at first, but something like that happening is not funny.
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I can understand how she could dislike the incentives NY is willing to give Amazon; I don't like those games either. However, that's a fact of life now, and she has to accept the bidding war for what it is. I don't think most of us would really agree a football coach is really worth a salary running into the millions per year when compared to more important jobs, but try bucking the system and see what it gets you. Most of us would likely agree that the votes used to elect AOC weren't well spent either, but she's fine with her constituents having wasted their votes on a silly girl.
 
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05_never_again said:
You have to think like a far-left progressive instead of like a reasonable person. To you, and to a lot of other people (even left of center people in NYC), it is a bad thing. But think like AOC's base does.

AOC's message is that the system is unfair and rigged by large corporations. They don't pay their "fair share" and government is the solution. She was elected by people who responded to that message and had it as a #1 priority. Just over a month into office, she was able to join a chorus of voices critical of Amazon, a gigantic company run by the world's richest man. The epitome of an easy target for her base. Joining that chorus of voices was the logical, no-brainer thing for her to do. If AOC was supportive of Amazon, or said nothing about it, she'd stand to get accused by her base of already being a sell-out to large corporations and risk getting run out of town on a rail.

The negative effects of this (fewer jobs, less tax revenue, etc.) are not immediate. It will play out over many years, during which her base will 1) largely forget about this and 2) allow AOC to pivot onto a new grievance.
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And not one of those libs has an objection to their rail transportation being highly subsidized so they can afford the ticket.
 
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AM64 said:
I can understand how she could dislike the incentives NY is willing to give Amazon; I don't like those games either. However, that's a fact of life now, and she has to accept the bidding war for what it is. I don't think most of us would really agree a football coach is really worth a salary running into the millions per year when compared to more important jobs, but try bucking the system and see what it gets you. Most of us would likely agree that the votes used to elect AOC weren't well spent either, but she's fine with her constituents having wasted their votes on a silly girl.
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Libertarians and far-left folks actually have a point of agreement on the Amazon deal, kind of. They both don't like it, but for completely different reasons. Progressives don't like it because a big corporation is getting a tax break. They hate that kind of thing, period, full stop.

Libertarians don't like it because governments play favorites with that sort of thing. Large, politically-connected corporations get breaks while smaller businesses and of course individuals don't get incentives like that. They just want taxes to be lower generally, on everyone, and open that "incentive" up.
 
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I have to wonder how many investors she financially ruined when Amazon pulled out. You just know people were buying up apartments, rehabbing properties, getting ready to open businesses only to have the entire thing jerked out from under them.
I'd be pissed if I invested money and it all went up in smoke.
 
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VolStrom said:
I have to wonder how many investors she financially ruined when Amazon pulled out. You just know people were buying up apartments, rehabbing properties, getting ready to open businesses only to have the entire thing jerked out from under them.
I'd be pissed if I invested money and it all went up in smoke.
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Speculation is a risky business.
 
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VolStrom said:
I have to wonder how many investors she financially ruined when Amazon pulled out. You just know people were buying up apartments, rehabbing properties, getting ready to open businesses only to have the entire thing jerked out from under them.
I'd be pissed if I invested money and it all went up in smoke.
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I have a hard time feeling sorry for speculators ... especially since some of them were likely trading on inside information ... and even less sympathy for a damn yankee speculator.
 
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