Aliens and UFO's- Is the truth out there?

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LouderVol said:
Nothing in any of those said I was wrong, except the mass thing. I pointed out that our current knowledge may not be everything, especially if we are assuming aliens have some manner of traversing distances at a rate faster than the speed of light.

As the last one points out, the speed of light, or the fine structure constant, is just a number. That doesn't make it a limit. We haven't accounted for all the mass in the universe that we have been able to measure with gravity. which would suggest that its either mass we can't measure with the speed of light, or one of our constants is wrong. and IIRC we aren't off on the overall mass by a little, its a sizeable number.
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There may be some tech you can build to bypass the limit via some exotic new physics. That's what what the nasa warp drive idea is about. But, the speed of light is a limit, without some hypothetical way around it. It's well established. You can't just accelerate past it.

Gravity manipulation doesn't help as it doesn't effect mass. The mass of the universe doesn't effect the speed of light either. Your can't change it as a constant because you inherently change others and the whole standard model falls apart. That same model predicts nearly everything we see really well. You have to get to some pretty extreme sizes or very exotic objects to start having issues. Even competing models like super string hold light as a constant.

It's not that we know everything. It's that the speed of light not being a constant means we know absolutely nothing and the current model works way to well for that to make sense.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
This is making the rounds on reddit and it's having a hard time being proven as fake. Supposedly this is Malaysian flight MH370 being surrounded by UFOs and then being teleported. It's pretty wild.





Link to Reddit thread:
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Lord help us if these are real.
 
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Based on above video Grusch now doesn’t have the security clearance to discuss classified material in a skiff? Who is making these decisions?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
This is making the rounds on reddit and it's having a hard time being proven as fake. Supposedly this is Malaysian flight MH370 being surrounded by UFOs and then being teleported. It's pretty wild.





Link to Reddit thread:
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there are a bunch of people pointing out the issues with the videos in that thread.

a couple questions/immediate problems I saw/agreed with were:
1. Was there another plane in the area? seems like we should know a lot about that flight if it existed.
1a. Commercial flights are not allowed to fly so close to each other at that close of altitudes.
1b. the last known contact with MH370 was way out over the Indian Ocean heading towards Antartica, no reason for another commercial flight to be in the area.
2. why would that plane have an internally mounted infrared camera to monitor another flight?
2a. the range on non-military thermal cameras tend to be pretty short, max 2km, and wouldn't have that resolution at the longer ranges.
2b. If they were that close the host plane would be going through the wake of the other and would be experiencing noticeable turbulence.
2c. If they were that close the second plane should have been visible in the satellite video.
 
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LouderVol said:
there are a bunch of people pointing out the issues with the videos in that thread.

a couple questions/immediate problems I saw/agreed with were:
1. Was there another plane in the area? seems like we should know a lot about that flight if it existed.
1a. Commercial flights are not allowed to fly so close to each other at that close of altitudes.
1b. the last known contact with MH370 was way out over the Indian Ocean heading towards Antartica, no reason for another commercial flight to be in the area.
2. why would that plane have an internally mounted infrared camera to monitor another flight?
2a. the range on non-military thermal cameras tend to be pretty short, max 2km, and wouldn't have that resolution at the longer ranges.
2b. If they were that close the host plane would be going through the wake of the other and would be experiencing noticeable turbulence.
2c. If they were that close the second plane should have been visible in the satellite video.
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Since I've posted this, it's kind of blown up on reddit. It has still not been proven as faked. Here is a whole thread that will help answer a lot of questions. It is quite the rabbit hole.

Reddit - Dive into anything

Even made a news site

Flying orbs filmed spinning around plane 'shows proof of teleportation'

But to answer your question about a 2nd plane, this footage wasn't taken from an airplane it's via military drone and satellite.
 
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LouderVol said:
there are a bunch of people pointing out the issues with the videos in that thread.

a couple questions/immediate problems I saw/agreed with were:
1. Was there another plane in the area? seems like we should know a lot about that flight if it existed.
1a. Commercial flights are not allowed to fly so close to each other at that close of altitudes.
1b. the last known contact with MH370 was way out over the Indian Ocean heading towards Antartica, no reason for another commercial flight to be in the area.
2. why would that plane have an internally mounted infrared camera to monitor another flight?
2a. the range on non-military thermal cameras tend to be pretty short, max 2km, and wouldn't have that resolution at the longer ranges.
2b. If they were that close the host plane would be going through the wake of the other and would be experiencing noticeable turbulence.
2c. If they were that close the second plane should have been visible in the satellite video.
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Someone can correct me if I wrong, but this was by satellite supposedly in 2014. The big word is “supposedly”.
 
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TVOLS said:
Someone can correct me if I wrong, but this was by satellite supposedly in 2014. The big word is “supposedly”.
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Correct. It was posted anonymously and kind of dismissed and forgotten about. Then with all the stuff going on in Congress about UFOs it was reposted and some people weren't so quick to dismiss it.
 
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www.theblackvault.com

Official Files on the Socorro UFO Landing, April 24, 1964 - The Black Vault

Background The Lonnie Zamora incident was an alleged UFO close encounter. It occurred on Friday, April 24, 1964, at about 5:50 p.m., on the outskirts of Socorro, New Mexico. Several primary witnesses emerged to report their version of the event, which included the craft's approach, conspicuous...
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Socorro event with evidence.
 
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TVOLS said:
www.theblackvault.com

Official Files on the Socorro UFO Landing, April 24, 1964 - The Black Vault

Background The Lonnie Zamora incident was an alleged UFO close encounter. It occurred on Friday, April 24, 1964, at about 5:50 p.m., on the outskirts of Socorro, New Mexico. Several primary witnesses emerged to report their version of the event, which included the craft's approach, conspicuous...
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Socorro event with evidence.
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The evidence is burns, nothing noted strange about them, and some unexplained marks on the ground. Need something more to say its actually extraterrestrial in nature.
 
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This is a common discussion in the Volette household.. I say nope, we are it, and he says the government is hiding things because people would freak out because everyone is stupid 😂
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
www.foxnews.com

Journalist presents Mexican Congress with alleged 'non-human alien corpses' at UFO hearing: 'We are not alone'

Mexican journalist and ufologist Jaime Maussan presented to the Mexican Congress what he claims are two "non-human" beings "not part of our terrestrial evolution."
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Why does it seem like no one is talking about this
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I thought same thing when I posted video then found that guy presenting the bodies has done this before and turned out to be human, I think. These if real don't look human to me and carbon dated 1000 years old.
 
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