All the eggs are in a basket...

#51
#51
bleedingTNorange said:
That's what I was saying. He discredits Martin because of a couple bad losses, but gives no credit for good wins.

Pure genius.
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There was truly one bad loss last year. Austin Peay. And that turned the season around. He's treating losses like football fans. Bad losses happen in basketball to 95% of teams. **** happens.
 
#54
#54
bleedingTNorange said:
That's what I was saying. He discredits Martin because of a couple bad losses, but gives no credit for good wins.

Pure genius.
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You guys get baited by this troll every time.
Martin will prove himself this season with wins and recruiting.
Ignore the trolls.
 
#55
#55
If Hubbs releases his OV dates and UT is not on there...is it possible to assume that Hubbs and Nichols both are silents to UT and just riding our their visits? Is that even a possibility?
 
#56
#56
Shaun1985 said:
If Hubbs releases his OV dates and UT is not on there...is it possible to assume that Hubbs and Nichols both are silents to UT and just riding our their visits? Is that even a possibility?
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I'd say no seeing as how hubbs has never been to UT's campus, would seem odd for him to do that.
 
#57
#57
wow. I had no idea Hubbs had never visited here. I thought he had been here a couple of times. Well....that shoots that theory. He needs to hurry on campus.
 
#58
#58
Chris4Vols22 said:
Tell me how you expected a team picked to finish 11th to make the NCAA.
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Understand what your are saying Chris, but that 11th place finish was bogus from the get go. Tennessee had much better talent than 11th in the SEC going into the season. I think the 11th place prediction was a typical media over-reaction to Pearl being replaced by a relatively inexperienced mid-major coach. Pearl's first UT team was picked last in the East his first year, for the same reasons.

Tennessee SHOULD expect to be in the NCAA every season, especially in the 64 team environment. I say that without discrediting Coach Martin for doing a good to very good job last year.
 
#59
#59
germanicus said:
Understand what your are saying Chris, but that 11th place finish was bogus from the get go. Tennessee had much better talent than 11th in the SEC going into the season. I think the 11th place prediction was a typical media over-reaction to Pearl being replaced by a relatively inexperienced mid-major coach. Pearl's first UT team was picked last in the East his first year, for the same reasons.

Tennessee SHOULD expect to be in the NCAA every season, especially in the 64 team environment. I say that without discrediting Coach Martin for doing a good to very good job last year.
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I think the 11th place prediction had as much to do with losing 4 starters, a 1st rd pick, the leading scorer, the starting pg, and 88% of the scoring from the previous year. Pearl's untimely dismissal compounded those issues, but there wasn't a whole lot of proven talent here and Martin didn't bring much with him.
 
#60
#60
A lot of misdirected angst by UT IE 95, imo. Be mad at Hamilton if you don't like CCM. Otherwise, rejoice in the fact that CCM has exceeded your expectations and is on the road to re-tracking this program.
 
#61
#61
zjcvols said:
There was truly one bad loss last year. Austin Peay. And that turned the season around. He's treating losses like football fans. Bad losses happen in basketball to 95% of teams. **** happens.
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IE is easily one of the most delusional and irrational fans on this site. To think what Martin walked into and how he was able to get this team to 10 SEC wins and have the same SEC record as Vandy with 3 NBA picks is nothing short of a small miracle. Yet, all he can refer back to is the Peay loss and make a thread stating that we should change coaches in the middle of the year in his first season. My God, what a buffoon.
 
#62
#62
germanicus said:
Understand what your are saying Chris, but that 11th place finish was bogus from the get go. Tennessee had much better talent than 11th in the SEC going into the season. I think the 11th place prediction was a typical media over-reaction to Pearl being replaced by a relatively inexperienced mid-major coach. Pearl's first UT team was picked last in the East his first year, for the same reasons.

Tennessee SHOULD expect to be in the NCAA every season, especially in the 64 team environment. I say that without discrediting Coach Martin for doing a good to very good job last year.
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Well I certainly knew that. Shortly after that info came out, I made a REALISTIC Season Expectation thread because 11th was obviously....just incorrect and a bad estimation. Was 95 expecting us to finish higher than 11th? Probably not.
 
#63
#63
Chris4Vols22 said:
Well I certainly knew that. Shortly after that info came out, I made a REALISTIC Season Expectation thread because 11th was obviously....just incorrect and a bad estimation. Was 95 expecting us to finish higher than 11th? Probably not.
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Even those that thought 11th was absurd, how many had us actually at 2nd, or an expectation of a NCAA tourney?

Show of hands....
 
#64
#64
no one should have expected us to make the tournament and only normal basketball fans that understand the game is tickled pink by the results we seen. Think about a brand new coach, who's unknown, with no major conference, big stage coaching exp. and then look at the huge black eye UT had when he came (still unknown what was going to happen to us). Then look at the fan base, who were hyped up on Pearl-Aid and really didn't give the man much of a chance. Then look at what we lost and what we had. We had a PG that played mop up duty last season and looked pretty bad doing that. An average HS backup, who had no business putting a UT jersey on and ended up leaving. A former walk on shooting guard, another frosh who nobody really knew much about, 1 inconsistant SR who ended his career how we figured he would and another one with a huge ego...a HS kid who became our best player, an undeveloped soccer kid, two transfers who hadn't proven anything, and the softest big man that looked raw most of the season.

With all of that....we should of went dancing????

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#65
#65
bleedingTNorange said:
Even those that thought 11th was absurd, how many had us actually at 2nd, or an expectation of a NCAA tourney?

Show of hands....
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I didnt get the 2nd place in the SEC correct but I was right about barely missing the tourney and going to the NIT.
 
#66
#66
Many analysts and even casual observers were expecting us to be South Carolina bad last year, as in we may not get past 10-12 wins. People that followed the program closely probably expected us to finish somewhere around a couple wins above .500. We didn't finish too far off of that prediction, but the quality wins we had in the later half of the schedule were unexpected and turned a "pretty good" record into a "very good" record when you put it in context. We were obviously more talented and had more pieces than even most fans expected.

Of all the coaching hires made during that particular off-season, we were very fortunate. Take Brian Gregory, for example. Most people would agree that he was a more proven coach, having been to the NCAA tourney with Dayton twice. GA Tech finished 11-20 last year, with arguably more "proven" talent entering the season. Cuonzo's defensive-minded approach is the reason we won games last year. We tried to win games by out scoring the opposition, and it didn't work. I don't think you would've seen the success we had last year had we hired a Brian Gregory or a Mike Anderson (speaking of short-term success here). Jamie Dixon, who a lot of people were naming as a UT target, coached his team to the CBI last year. Roy Williams coached his blue-blood '09 team to the NIT. Programs have to rebuild and will have down years. I don't know how you can look at last year's team or the coaching hire, given the results, as a failure.
 
#67
#67
I've been reading on here that CCM has been cooling off on a lot of players,do ya'll think it is because,they think they have the guys he wants locked up ? that's what I'm hoping for :)
 
#68
#68
governmentmule said:
I've been reading on here that CCM has been cooling off on a lot of players,do ya'll think it is because,they think they have the guys he wants locked up ? that's what I'm hoping for :)
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You would have to think that! Maybe a silent verbal from Jw3, Hubbs, Nichols?? One can only dream :)
 
#70
#70
I don't know that he has a silent from any of them, however i do think it's very possible those guys (atleast hubbs and nichosl)!have told CCM that Tennessee is their leader. Therefore, he has cooled on the other guys they were after at those guys position, and are still making hubbs and Nichols their priority. Jmo
 
#71
#71
Rainbow Crowd Logic - "let's expect to finish 11th and suck so when we make the NIT and get bounced at home by MTSU we can call it a great season. That Coach Martin is allsome!"

I expect UT to make the tourney in the watered down field every year. We are UT, not South Carolina as someone referenced.

I make no excuses for expecting to win. Although some of you are very good at making excuses for expecting to lose.
 
#75
#75
UT IE 95 said:
Find a nice soft spot in the sand too?
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If we make the tourney this year, will that be good enough for you? What will your opinion of Cuonzo be then? Will you be able to look past his "shortcomings" in the '10 - '11 season, or will he always be tainted to you because he missed the tourney in a rebuilding year? Seriously asking.
 
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