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[RockyTop85]

That doesn't sound like this White House at all.

There may be some really rewarding post-Trump era litigation to define the limits of a presidential pardon.

 

[GSD82]

“Breaking from CNN” LOL

 

[clarksvol00]

There may be some really rewarding post-Trump era litigation to define the limits of a presidential pardon.

Time for "impeachment Tennessee-style." Swear Biden in today.

 

[Velo Vol]

There may be some really rewarding post-Trump era litigation to define the limits of a presidential pardon.

I expect early/mid-January to be a real circus.

 

[carlos86]

Oh Rudy.......

 

[carlos86]

I expect early/mid-January to be a real circus.

We are going to figure how much that Flynn pardon covers that’s for sure.

 

[Velo Vol]

There may be some really rewarding post-Trump era litigation to define the limits of a presidential pardon.

 

[luthervol]

I bet his children get a big pardon bribery discount. Not sure about Giuliani, maybe 10%.

 

[clarksvol00]

I bet his children get a big pardon bribery discount. Not sure about Giuliani, maybe 10%.

Rudy will offset it against the $20k per day legal bill he's "earning."

 

[luthervol]

Rudy will offset it against the $20k per day legal bill he's "earning."

Rudy put a pretty hefty price tag on his soul.

 

[clarksvol00]

Oh Rudy.......

“Breaking from CNN” LOL

More like breaking news from DOJ?

 

[Velo Vol]

I bet his children get a big pardon bribery discount. Not sure about Giuliani, maybe 10%.

What about Jared?

 

[luthervol]

What about Jared?

I would guess somewhere between 25% and 33%. Of course, he and Ivanka could put together some sort of package deal.

 

[VolinMichigan]

So now preemptive pardons are a thing? Don’t you have to be convicted first?

 

[NorthDallas40]

So now preemptive pardons are a thing? Don’t you have to be convicted first?

Look up Nixon and Ford

 

[Orangeslice13]

Look up Nixon and Ford

History, precedent and whatnot

 

[VolinMichigan]

Look up Nixon and Ford

Did Nixon pardon himself and his family on the way out? This is a completely different situation.

“After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision that stated that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that its acceptance carries a confession of guilt.”

So what are the Trumps guilty of?

 

[luthervol]

Look up Nixon and Ford

How is that even remotely relevant?

 

[NorthDallas40]

How is that even remotely relevant?

Why an I not shocked you can’t connect the dots.

 

[NorthDallas40]

This is the question you asked. I gave you two names to show that a preemptive pardon can indeed be done. That is what Ford did as Nixon had no conviction.

So now preemptive pardons are a thing? Don’t you have to be convicted first?

This tripe I can only assume is you trying to deflect from your ignorance.

Did Nixon pardon himself and his family on the way out? This is a completely different situation.

“After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision that stated that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that its acceptance carries a confession of guilt.”

So what are the Trumps guilty of?

 

[Boston Vol]

So now preemptive pardons are a thing? Don’t you have to be convicted first?

No you don’t have to be convicted. You don’t even have to be charged to receive a pardon.

 

[luthervol]

Why an I not shocked you can’t connect the dots.

Because the dots are in different dimensions?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Because the dots are in different dimensions?

I don’t even want to ponder how many dimensions are in your pea brain or how they might be connected. I answered a specific question with the correct answer. And you don’t seem to be able to connect those dots at least.

 

[VolinMichigan]

This is the question you asked. I gave you two names to show that a preemptive pardon can indeed be done. That is what Ford did as Nixon had no conviction.

This tripe I can only assume is you trying to deflect from your ignorance.

Well technically the situation where a president pardons himself has never come up. So that’s legally untested. So who knows what the courts would have to say about that. Having a sitting president give himself and his family a get out of jail free card might not be the best precedent to set for the SCOTUS.

 

[BenGrimm]

No you don’t have to be convicted. You don’t even have to be charged to receive a pardon.

What I don’t get is how you can pardon without any type of charge. Are you then just blanket pardoned of any federal crime you may have committed before the Pardon?