America Founded in 1619

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Weezer said:
Who said racism is dead? It's just not as prevalent as the left makes it out to be with their fear-mongering. People find stupid reasons to hate, and I doubt that will ever end completely.

Also, given her years claiming to be someone she's not, Native American, Liz would be better off leaving the race argument alone.
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I watched Higher Learning last night, and the one thing that stands out, when you look and all you are looking for is what you perceive, you can make the things that have nothing to do with your train of thought, back up your perception. White and black, white power or black power. Both create what both are wanting to see.
 
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Vol737 said:
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I can only imagine how this will be used to continue to foment hate for America.
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And the continuing dumbing down of America. It may have always been there, but the libs - particularly the antiwar protesters - of my own generation were the idiots who really started the ball rolling in the 60s. Too bad they were allowed to breed and continue their superior brand of stupidity rather than being eradicated like cockroaches.
 
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AM64 said:
And the continuing dumbing down of America. It may have always been there, but the libs - particularly the antiwar protesters - of my own generation were the idiots who really started the ball rolling in the 60s. Too bad they were allowed to breed and continue their superior brand of stupidity rather than being eradicated like cockroaches.
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It's 2 hours long, but well worth the watch if you're interested in what has happened to our education system. Charlotte lays it all out there and was in a position to know. Last I checked, her book is a free PDF download on her website.

 
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DynaLo said:
It's 2 hours long, but well worth the watch if you're interested in what has happened to our education system. Charlotte lays it all out there and was in a position to know. Last I checked, her book is a free PDF download on her website.

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I'll check it out ... downloaded the books. Thanks
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
The Left Argues Slavery Was an Economic Blessing. Here's Why They Are Wrong. | Robert P. Murphy
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I liked this string of comments:

Daniel Campos • 3 days ago
If slavery of blacks were the most pressing factor for prosperity, then my country, Brazil, would be much wealthier than these US because while these received 1/10th of all slaves brought from Africa, mine received 1/2 of them.

  • Justin Murray Daniel Campos • 3 days ago • edited
    From a percentage of the population, the various islands of the Caribbean had the highest percentage of African slaves. By this regard, Haiti should be the richest nation in the world.
    Spoilers: it's the poorest. Seems like slavery isn't all that it's claimed.

  • Justin Murray • 8 hours ago
    The rich families in the North used to have slaves in the Caribbean for their business interests. Out of sight out of mind.
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n_huffhines said:
The version of history I was taught is that whites made America exceptional and then we sprinkled in a peanut farmer and a baseball player. Now we're upset because somebody is giving too much credit to the non-whites.

Did you read the article or the article about the article? I'm not sure I disagree with this excerpt:

[out of slavery] "grew nearly everything that has truly made America exceptional."

Agriculture was the foundation for everything. It's hard to say that slavery doesn't have at least an indirect impact on everything that America is, the good and the bad.
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Weird you must’ve went to a terrible school or had a terrible teacher. My history teachers for the most part were pretty spot on until I got to college and had a Chinese Communist National TA
 
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n_huffhines said:
Why do you think 20th century is when we became exceptional? I just look at the droves of immigrants coming here in the 19th century and conclude it was exceptional long before WWI. That's when we became a world power, sure, but I don't view that as the same thing. Economically, we were exceptional in the 19th century in terms of opportunity and property rights. Culturally, we were exceptional before WWI. Look how many important authors and poets came from the United States. Our version of democracy was copied all over the west. Etc.
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Industrial revolution and WWII along with nationalism took the US to elite status
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I would say that teaching accurate history is important, but what you said that I found interesting was the "compare" comment. Why do we need to compare history to that of any other? I am not saying we have a bad history. It is just that we have history that we have chosen to ignore.
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“Ignore”? Lmao. Give me a break, slavery is brought up all the time for every excuse as to why certain people fail in life
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Weird you must’ve went to a terrible school or had a terrible teacher. My history teachers for the most part were pretty spot on until I got to college and had a Chinese Communist National TA
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I bet they weren't as good as you think. Just because you still don't realize what you weren't taught and were misled about...
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Industrial revolution and WWII along with nationalism took the US to elite status
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Nationalism? Makes no sense. We were a melting pot that traded its way to great wealth.

The industrial revolution happened to everyone.

WWII didn't "make" us rich. A lot of good economic fsctors put us in a position to capitalize on the opportunity that WWII presented. Why didn't other nations benefit like we did?

Go kick your history teachers in the nuts
 
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n_huffhines said:
Nationalism? Makes no sense. We were a melting pot that traded its way to great wealth.

The industrial revolution happened to everyone.

WWII didn't "make" us rich. A lot of good economic factors put us in a position to capitalize on the opportunity that WWII presented. Why didn't other nations benefit like we did?

Go kick your history teachers in the nuts
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Nationalist in the way that immigrants then ACTUALLY assimilated into America and became Americans, they didn't just ignore and diminish what makes America great

Really? The Industrial Revolution happened to "everyone"? You mean it happened to about 25-30 countries and the rest of the world did nothing to be a part of it.

WWII didn't make us rich, i didn't say that, but the returning workforce, and our military might, along with American innovation which was the best in the world, set us far apart from everyone else in the world. Other nations didn't benefit because most of them were rebuilding direct damage from the war, which we didn't have
 
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n_huffhines said:
I bet they weren't as good as you think. Just because you still don't realize what you weren't taught and were misled about...
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Interesting take, what do you think i wasn't talk or was mislead about?

Or is this generalization based on your own teachers' inadequacies?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Nationalist in the way that immigrants then ACTUALLY assimilated into America and became Americans, they didn't just ignore and diminish what makes America great
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This doesn't even make sense (that's not what nationalism is) and people like you were saying the exact same thing you are saying now. "They don't assimilate. They won't speak our language. Blah blah." But then they did and they built America.

Again, go kick your history teacher in the nuts.

Really? The Industrial Revolution happened to "everyone"? You mean it happened to about 25-30 countries and the rest of the world did nothing to be a part of it.
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OK, so 30 countries? I don't think you understood my point. It is that the industrial revolution wasn't something unique about us that led to our economic success. As you said, 30 countries.

WWII didn't make us rich, i didn't say that, but the returning workforce, and our military might, along with American innovation which was the best in the world, set us far apart from everyone else in the world. Other nations didn't benefit because most of them were rebuilding direct damage from the war, which we didn't have
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There were plenty of other countries that were not affected by the war. My point is in tune with what you're saying here, that it was other economic factors (innovation, workforce) that allowed us to capitalize on WWII. No idea what military might has to do with our economic success, tho. Our military might was a product of our economic success, IMO.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Interesting take, what do you think i wasn't talk or was mislead about?

Or is this generalization based on your own teachers' inadequacies?
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Well, you think nationalism is what made us a world power, for one.

The idea that you think you weren't misled about anything is pretty naive. Even if your history teachers didn't intentionally mislead you, there is a 100% chance they had some facts and interpretations of events wrong.

Here is one that basically everyone learned somewhere along the way: the great depression was a result of laissez faire economics and the new deal saved the day.
 
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Dear Lord, did Tom Cotton-brain really call slavery a "necessary evil." And he's supposed to be the future of Republigoons? Good luck with that.
 
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MG1968 said:
As I figured, Cotton was taken out of context.

Nice try, counselor.
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“We have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can’t understand our country. As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction,” he said.

So if I say, "As Bob said, you're not a very good reader," doesn't that imply I'm in agreement with Bob?

The above is the full quote for people.
 
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evillawyer said:
“We have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can’t understand our country. As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction,” he said.

So if I say, "As Bob said, you're not a very good reader," doesn't that imply I'm in agreement with Bob?

The above is the full quote for people.
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Interesting take. So we had slavery to get rid of slavery. I guess black people should be thanking us white folks for getting them out of slavery by enslaving them.

I've seen Cotton on tv say some odd things, but this takes the cake. And the funny thing is, he always tries to sound intellectual and thoughtful. I don't think so.
 
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