"American alliance is worth nothing..."

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Orangeburst said:
What is so difficult to understand...Anytime a nation can take control of their sovereignty the better. With an added bonus to flip off the EU.
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You referenced pulling a 1939. A lot went on that year. Who took control of their sovereignty in 1939?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm serious.
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Come on Ras..you are smarter than this. Germany invaded Poland in 1939.
The EU, ie Germany, has been controlling the continent via economic and bureaucratic means since the advent of the EU. If they cant do it via these methods, maybe they need a blitzkrieg to accomplish
 
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Orangeburst said:
Come on Ras..you are smarter than this. Germany invaded Poland in 1939.
The EU, ie Germany, has been controlling the continent via economic and bureaucratic means since the advent of the EU. If they cant do it via these methods, maybe they need a blitzkrieg to accomplish
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Well I knew that. That's why I said a lot went on in 1939. I was confused about Merkel and what you meant by their true intentions.

I guess I never saw Merkel or the current German govt as necessarily a threat to Poland. I see all of these countries in Western Europe (Poland, Germany and others) as really being puppets of the United States. And no of these countries will have sovereignty over themselves when they are in that situation.

I was fully aware of the history, I just wasn't sure how you were trying to piece everything together. That is more on me than you probably.
 
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Pat Buchanan nails it.

Why Putin's Pipeline Is Welcome In Germany | ZeroHedge

And what does Germany’s chronic refusal to meet the standard of NATO nations to contribute 2% of GDP to the common defense tell us?

Quite obviously, the Germans do not see Putin’s Russia as the military threat it was in the Cold War. And Berlin has come to believe that, even if it falls short of its commitments to spend more on defense, the Americans are bluffing. They are not going to leave Europe or NATO.

Why are the Germans not wrong to conclude this?
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Why does Angela Merkel not take seriously U.S. threats to pull our troops out of Germany, if the Germans won’t cancel Nord Stream 2 or pony up more for defense?

Because Merkel thinks the Americans are bluffing about going home from Europe, and thinks the Russia of Vladimir Putin is not the Russia she knew in the days of the GDR.

Is she wrong?
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Countries will eventually look after their own best interests and not get pushed into trying to meaningless and destructive sanctions battles. The US 's time as the bully on the block is fastly running out. We have far more concerns in this hemisphere anyways. Let Europe handle their own affairs.

EU Infighting Over Vaccine Supplies Intensifies As France, Germany Turn To Russia | ZeroHedge

Alexei Navalny is on hunger strike, prompting European governments to again criticize the Kremlin for alleged human rights abuses (both the US and EU slapped more sanctions on Russia over Navalny's alleged "poisoning" and are now complaining about Russian troop movements near the Ukrainian border) and demand his release. But while they publicly bash President Vladmir Putin, European leaders are quietly negotiating with his government to try and get their hands on supplies of "Sputnik V".

At this point, the US has tried to pressure friendly governments into rejecting the vaccine to no avail. With Washington hogging most of its supplies, asking allies to pass up desperately needed vaccines to help further a geopolitical agenda was simply too big an ask. Despite Brussels' scorn, Russia has struck a production deal with Italy, - while Hungary and Slovakia have already approved the vaccine for use on adults.
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German Ambassador Seconds Putin's Fiery NS2 Remarks: "European Energy Policy Not Determined By Foreigners" | ZeroHedge

"At the moment, important negotiations between the American and German governments are ongoing, which include the topic of Nord Stream 2, but our stance on the matter is clear, and it will not change: we are convinced that the energy security of Europe, as well as European energy policy should be determined by Europeans only, and not by foreigners," he stated confidently.
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The US-German Hybrid War Against Poland Is Intensifying | ZeroHedge

Poland has come under intensified Hybrid War attack by the US and Germany after its hoped-for Baltic Pipe’s construction has been delayed by their Danish ally, the influential Washington Post published a scathing editorial imploring American decision makers to push back against Poland’s plans to regain control of a US-owned anti-government broadcaster, and it became official that the US and Germany cut a deal with Russia over Nord Stream II.

 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The US-German Hybrid War Against Poland Is Intensifying | ZeroHedge

Poland has come under intensified Hybrid War attack by the US and Germany after its hoped-for Baltic Pipe’s construction has been delayed by their Danish ally, the influential Washington Post published a scathing editorial imploring American decision makers to push back against Poland’s plans to regain control of a US-owned anti-government broadcaster, and it became official that the US and Germany cut a deal with Russia over Nord Stream II.

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Man, I'm so happy we got rid of the Orange Man and his Russian collusion so he can't make the Poles use this pipeline!
 
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Grand Vol said:
Man, I'm so happy we got rid of the Orange Man and his Russian collusion so he can't make the Poles use this pipeline!
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I am sick of both sides coming into power and then doing 180s on our promises abroad. I think in most cases we should be honoring deals made by predecessors because that person had the power to bind our country at that time.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am sick of both sides coming into power and then doing 180s on our promises abroad. I think in most cases we should be honoring deals made by predecessors because that person had the power to bind our country at that time.
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Nice sentiment but unfortunately the days in which “politics ends at the ocean’s edge” are dead and gone. Both parties are so invested in using EVERY possible opportunity to boost their immediate political advantage at home (or to hobble the other party), that nothing is sacrosanct, national security or allied expectations be damned. When everything is political, don’t be surprised that everything is political.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am sick of both sides coming into power and then doing 180s on our promises abroad. I think in most cases we should be honoring deals made by predecessors because that person had the power to bind our country at that time.
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If it's something they can get through Congress it's binding into the next administration. Unless of course, it involves national security and laws concerning immigration and a democrat is the one ignoring the laws.
 
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Chinese Media Warns Taiwan Against Acting As US Puppets, Calls Afghan Pullout A 'Lesson' For Them | ZeroHedge

Global Times provides several accounts of the US abandoning its allies over the last few centuries.

Many people cannot help but recall how the Vietnam War ended in 1975:
  • The US abandoned its allies in South Vietnam.
  • Saigon was taken over.
  • The US evacuated almost all its citizens in Saigon.
And in 2019, US troops withdrew from northern Syria abruptly and abandoned their allies, the Kurds. Some historians also point out that abandoning allies to protect US interests is an inherent flaw that has been deeply rooted in the US since the founding of the country. During the American War of Independence, the US humbly begged the king of France, Louis XVI, to ally with it. After the war, it quickly made peace with Britain unilaterally and concluded a peace treaty with Britain that was detrimental to France's interests. This put Louis XVI's regime in a difficult position, giving cause for the French Revolution. ​
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Chinese Media Warns Taiwan Against Acting As US Puppets, Calls Afghan Pullout A 'Lesson' For Them | ZeroHedge

Global Times provides several accounts of the US abandoning its allies over the last few centuries.

Many people cannot help but recall how the Vietnam War ended in 1975:​
  • The US abandoned its allies in South Vietnam.
  • Saigon was taken over.
  • The US evacuated almost all its citizens in Saigon.
And in 2019, US troops withdrew from northern Syria abruptly and abandoned their allies, the Kurds. Some historians also point out that abandoning allies to protect US interests is an inherent flaw that has been deeply rooted in the US since the founding of the country. During the American War of Independence, the US humbly begged the king of France, Louis XVI, to ally with it. After the war, it quickly made peace with Britain unilaterally and concluded a peace treaty with Britain that was detrimental to France's interests. This put Louis XVI's regime in a difficult position, giving cause for the French Revolution. ​
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A lot of irony there as the Vietnamese are back in alignment with the US against China
Realpolitik
 
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